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Positives: * Presided over a vast increase in revenue, from $4 to $29 billion * Steered the ship through a number of content controversies * Anecdotally, the

by pradn 4y ago

Positives: * Presided over a vast increase in revenue, from $4 to $29 billion * Steered the ship through a number of content controversies * Anecdotally, the brand value of YouTube remains good * YouTube Premium seems to have good uptake * Presided over enormous cost savings with custom encoder hardware * Few major technical outages, good streaming performance generally * Relationships with advertisers and content creators generally remain good Negatives: * Missed the Twitch/streaming wave * Missed the TikTok, short video wave * YouTube Originals flopped (partly bc they didn't commit hard enough, not like Netflix or Amazon) * Overall low user experience - slow/complex website and apps * Issues for content creators - overly aggressive ContentID, not rewarding short but valuable videos enough (indie animation), opaque demonetization rules * No shrinking of the algorithmic filter bubble

gjsman-1000 4y ago
> * Relationships with advertisers and content creators generally remain good I'd say this is due to lack of competition and network effects than a good relationship. CuriosityStream, Nebula, and even channels as benign as Linus Tech Tips trying to get Floatplane off the ground show this relationship is far from strong. Your non-edgy creators wouldn't be trying to replace you if they thought you were doing a good job.
- pradn 4y ago
  It's not perfect, but it's not terrible either. Millions of creators and billions of users generally have a good experience on YouTube. There's been no "let's try Mastodon" moment.
ris58h 4y ago
> Overall low user experience I literally have to wait for 5 seconds for 3 dot menus under videos to load on the main page. It's ridiculous.
gjsman-1000 4y ago
Just discovered something very interesting: She is resigning one day after Google received a subpoena from the U.S. House of Representatives demanding answers to questions on censorship of conservative voices, and specifically on content moderation decisions. Yes, just yesterday. Subpoena to resignation. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-republicans-subpoena-big-tech-ceos-over-censorship-claims/ar-AA17xziB https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-republicans-subpoena... https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/02/15/house-republican-subpoena-big-tech/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/02/15/house-r... https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3859762-house-gop-subpoenas-big-tech-companies-over-content-moderation-decisions/ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3859762-house-gop-subp... That's actually a really bad look (pro PR tip: Don't resign immediately after bad press - delay your resignation to avoid association if possible - or, if you know a certain political group doesn't like you and you're planning to retire, maybe resign before they get into power). Particularly important because Twitter is all over that "connection" right now that was pretty unnecessary. It appears that the subpoena was directed at Google, but her resignation means she may not have to personally have to personally testify, as Google could send the new CEO in.
- killingtime74 4y ago
  It's interesting timing but she will still have to testify about all the time she was in charge, resigning doesn't really change anything.
- jackmott42 4y ago
  Not as bad as the look of conservative voices since 2016
  - pfannkuchen 4y ago
    Is this a form of synesthesia?
- MisterBastahrd 4y ago
  Wow, that literally doesn't matter at all. There's absolutely nothing stopping Congress from issuing her a direct subpoena.
tehwebguy 4y ago
* Missed out on stand up comedy! Netflix became the comedy powerhouse by, most likely, just looking at what unofficial standup uploads had the most views on YouTube and making appropriate offers.
- golemotron 4y ago
  To be fair, Netflix had already built out original programming. YouTube hasn't.
40acres 4y ago
Funnily enough I really like YouTube shorts. A lot of Tiktokers cross post and because of this I haven’t found a reason to download TikTok.
- rr888 4y ago
  > I haven’t found a reason to download TikTok Its a good business. My daughter isn't allowed Tiktok, but youtube comes with every phone and ipad already...
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numlocked 4y ago
It seems likely that YouTube TV is also going well.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
  Some numbers would be helpful. I recently got it for Superbowl, because I couldn't be bothered to find pirate stream and cancelled it shortly thereafter. I did look at what else they offer why I had access. Nothing that would make me think of staying anyway. I tend to think all those services rely heavily on old TV-addicts like my wife.
  - pradn 4y ago
    It’s worth getting a TV antenna for events like this. If you don’t have a TV, YouTube TV is a good option but expensive.
arminiusreturns 4y ago
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- benjaminwootton 4y ago
  Yeah. I love YouTube and admire it as a business, but the censorship undermines everything and anecdotally seems to be getting worse.
  - drusepth 4y ago
    YouTube has forever had a moderation problem. What some people call censorship, others call moderating. I'm glad the comments/videos have improved significantly in quality the last ~year, due to what I assume is being attributed to censorship here.
repple 4y ago
UX gripe: It would be nice if YouTube remembered where I stopped watching a 3 hour video, so that I would not have to seek myself next time I resume. Spotify does it and it’s so convenient!!!
- coding123 4y ago
  It does resume on the desktop. It does not on Android. Go figure.
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thegrim22 4y ago
Last I checked there were multiple direct replies to this commenting on how censorship issues weren't mentioned as negative, and now those replies are mysteriously all completely missing, which is about as ironic as you can possibly get. Comments complaining about censorship issues are themselves censored.
lackbeard 4y ago
> YouTube Originals flopped Maybe as a whole, but Cobra Kai was excellent and very popular! Also, in the long-run, will having "missed" streaming & shorts necessarily be a bad thing? Time will tell. I wish they never introduced shorts. Why do all platforms need to be everything to everyone? Why can't they focus on just being the best platform for user-created long-form video? I probably know the answer, but it makes me sad that that's the reality we live in.
- gremlinsinc 4y ago
  Cobra Kai was a huge flop for youtube (missed opportunity?), because they had to sell it off, couldn't keep it going, and to be honest, I'm not sure it would've been great had it stayed there, I enjoyed the first 2 seasons, but Netflix has just gotten better and better, and you can tell from the last youtube season to the first Netflix season how the quality shifted.
IshKebab 4y ago
I wouldn't be so sure about TikTok. YouTube Shorts seems to be quite good and popular.
bagacrap 4y ago
my user experience is pretty great. Any time I run into a video on a blog somewhere and realize it's hosted at yt, it's a huge relief to me. What video streaming service is more reliable or higher quality? yt shorts are very successful. But regardless, I don't think that a CEO is unsuccessful any time innovation happens anywhere else in the world besides within their own company. That YT is a social media platform which has only become more relevant over the last 17 years is a pretty stunning track record. What other service has shown such longevity?

by pradn 4y ago

gjsman-1000 4y ago

> * Relationships with advertisers and content creators generally remain good I'd say this is due to lack of competition and network effects than a good relationship. CuriosityStream, Nebula, and even channels as benign as Linus Tech Tips trying to get Floatplane off the ground show this relationship is far from strong. Your non-edgy creators wouldn't be trying to replace you if they thought you were doing a good job.

pradn 4y ago
It's not perfect, but it's not terrible either. Millions of creators and billions of users generally have a good experience on YouTube. There's been no "let's try Mastodon" moment.

ris58h 4y ago

> Overall low user experience I literally have to wait for 5 seconds for 3 dot menus under videos to load on the main page. It's ridiculous.

gjsman-1000 4y ago

Just discovered something very interesting: She is resigning one day after Google received a subpoena from the U.S. House of Representatives demanding answers to questions on censorship of conservative voices, and specifically on content moderation decisions. Yes, just yesterday. Subpoena to resignation. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-republicans-subpoena-big-tech-ceos-over-censorship-claims/ar-AA17xziB https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-republicans-subpoena... https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/02/15/house-republican-subpoena-big-tech/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/02/15/house-r... https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3859762-house-gop-subpoenas-big-tech-companies-over-content-moderation-decisions/ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3859762-house-gop-subp... That's actually a really bad look (pro PR tip: Don't resign immediately after bad press - delay your resignation to avoid association if possible - or, if you know a certain political group doesn't like you and you're planning to retire, maybe resign before they get into power). Particularly important because Twitter is all over that "connection" right now that was pretty unnecessary. It appears that the subpoena was directed at Google, but her resignation means she may not have to personally have to personally testify, as Google could send the new CEO in.

killingtime74 4y ago
It's interesting timing but she will still have to testify about all the time she was in charge, resigning doesn't really change anything.
jackmott42 4y ago
Not as bad as the look of conservative voices since 2016
- pfannkuchen 4y ago
  Is this a form of synesthesia?
MisterBastahrd 4y ago
Wow, that literally doesn't matter at all. There's absolutely nothing stopping Congress from issuing her a direct subpoena.

tehwebguy 4y ago

* Missed out on stand up comedy! Netflix became the comedy powerhouse by, most likely, just looking at what unofficial standup uploads had the most views on YouTube and making appropriate offers.

golemotron 4y ago
To be fair, Netflix had already built out original programming. YouTube hasn't.

40acres 4y ago

Funnily enough I really like YouTube shorts. A lot of Tiktokers cross post and because of this I haven’t found a reason to download TikTok.

rr888 4y ago
> I haven’t found a reason to download TikTok Its a good business. My daughter isn't allowed Tiktok, but youtube comes with every phone and ipad already...

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numlocked 4y ago

It seems likely that YouTube TV is also going well.

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
Some numbers would be helpful. I recently got it for Superbowl, because I couldn't be bothered to find pirate stream and cancelled it shortly thereafter. I did look at what else they offer why I had access. Nothing that would make me think of staying anyway. I tend to think all those services rely heavily on old TV-addicts like my wife.
- pradn 4y ago
  It’s worth getting a TV antenna for events like this. If you don’t have a TV, YouTube TV is a good option but expensive.

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benjaminwootton 4y ago
Yeah. I love YouTube and admire it as a business, but the censorship undermines everything and anecdotally seems to be getting worse.
- drusepth 4y ago
  YouTube has forever had a moderation problem. What some people call censorship, others call moderating. I'm glad the comments/videos have improved significantly in quality the last ~year, due to what I assume is being attributed to censorship here.

repple 4y ago

UX gripe: It would be nice if YouTube remembered where I stopped watching a 3 hour video, so that I would not have to seek myself next time I resume. Spotify does it and it’s so convenient!!!

coding123 4y ago
It does resume on the desktop. It does not on Android. Go figure.

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thegrim22 4y ago

Last I checked there were multiple direct replies to this commenting on how censorship issues weren't mentioned as negative, and now those replies are mysteriously all completely missing, which is about as ironic as you can possibly get. Comments complaining about censorship issues are themselves censored.

lackbeard 4y ago

> YouTube Originals flopped Maybe as a whole, but Cobra Kai was excellent and very popular! Also, in the long-run, will having "missed" streaming & shorts necessarily be a bad thing? Time will tell. I wish they never introduced shorts. Why do all platforms need to be everything to everyone? Why can't they focus on just being the best platform for user-created long-form video? I probably know the answer, but it makes me sad that that's the reality we live in.

gremlinsinc 4y ago
Cobra Kai was a huge flop for youtube (missed opportunity?), because they had to sell it off, couldn't keep it going, and to be honest, I'm not sure it would've been great had it stayed there, I enjoyed the first 2 seasons, but Netflix has just gotten better and better, and you can tell from the last youtube season to the first Netflix season how the quality shifted.

IshKebab 4y ago

I wouldn't be so sure about TikTok. YouTube Shorts seems to be quite good and popular.

bagacrap 4y ago

my user experience is pretty great. Any time I run into a video on a blog somewhere and realize it's hosted at yt, it's a huge relief to me. What video streaming service is more reliable or higher quality? yt shorts are very successful. But regardless, I don't think that a CEO is unsuccessful any time innovation happens anywhere else in the world besides within their own company. That YT is a social media platform which has only become more relevant over the last 17 years is a pretty stunning track record. What other service has shown such longevity?