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I switched 100% to edge now with Bing search as my default page. I use this URL https://www.bing.com/search?q=1&showconv=1 https://www.bing.com/search?q=1&showc

I switched 100% to edge now with Bing search as my default page. I use this URL https://www.bing.com/search?q=1&showconv=1 https://www.bing.com/search?q=1&showconv=1, that q=1 is arbitrary cause It doesn't seem to work without the q. I also point the home button to the same page. But since I can't customize the new tab page URL, I just personalized it and turned off all default content and ads in the settings. Its super clean now with just the search bar. People are using Bing chat for entertainment, and you get silly articles like this. I use it for productivity and programming along with ChatGPT Plus. Its soo empowering!

mrtksn 4y ago
Edge is very nice but can't stand the Microsoft's other stuff like auto updater. It gives me notifications that I don't care about and it acts as a malware when try to remove some parts of it as launching it when the system starts(it re-adds itself to launch items and these notifications don't go away for some reason). Now I'm creating a VM om MacOS inside the MacOS and will attempt to extract the browser part. I don't want microsoft all around my system.
- largepeepee 4y ago
  >Now I'm creating a VM om MacOS inside the MacOS and will attempt to extract the browser part. I don't want microsoft all around my system. The funny part is that apple's telemetry is just as bad as Microsoft's, the modern macOS sends a hash of each and every program you run and if their servers are affected, it has a good chance to pull your apps down with it as long as you are connected to the net. And that is just the tip of the iceberg. Not a fan of either system.
  - mrtksn 4y ago
    I don't actually care about telemetry, I'm fine with them knowing how I use the apps. That's how better products are made. The problem is that MS puts me in the loop. Just update without telling me, if you fail I don't want to know and if I explicitly remove you from the log in items don't try to re-add yourself. I don't want to have sidekick apps to be able to run one app. Microsoft definitely does some things right but I suspect that the incompetent and evil part of the company is still alive and kicking.
  - astrange 4y ago
    It does not do that.
    - justinclift 4y ago
      Wasn't it clearly shown a while back that macOS Gatekeeper does indeed do something along those lines? Doing some searching online is turning up info about it: * https://www.extremetech.com/computing/317371-evaluating-apples-data-collection-in-macos-big-sur https://www.extremetech.com/computing/317371-evaluating-appl... * https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/15/apple-responds-to-gatekeeper-issue-with-upcoming-fixes/ https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/15/apple-responds-to-gatekeep... * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25204909 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25204909 * https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/11/mac-certificate-check-stokes-fears-apple-logs-every-app-you-run/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/11/mac-certificate-chec...
      - astrange 4y ago
        No, it was not clearly shown, because it doesn't do that. The articles saying it does that are wrong. (It sends a team identifier which is not unique per application, and would mostly be the same one since almost everyone mostly uses first party apps. It does this because that's how certificate validation works.)
NayamAmarshe 4y ago
I use Microsoft Edge when I want to remind myself that privacy is dead and people find it empowering. https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf
mark_l_watson 4y ago
That is a good hint, thanks. When using Edge Browser on my iPad Pro and MacBook, I have been immediately going to bing.com and that also works. My wife does not have access to the new service yet, and she is clearly jealous and she didn’t understand why Microsoft can’t just open an expensive to run prototype to the whole world.

mrtksn 4y ago

Edge is very nice but can't stand the Microsoft's other stuff like auto updater. It gives me notifications that I don't care about and it acts as a malware when try to remove some parts of it as launching it when the system starts(it re-adds itself to launch items and these notifications don't go away for some reason). Now I'm creating a VM om MacOS inside the MacOS and will attempt to extract the browser part. I don't want microsoft all around my system.

largepeepee 4y ago
>Now I'm creating a VM om MacOS inside the MacOS and will attempt to extract the browser part. I don't want microsoft all around my system. The funny part is that apple's telemetry is just as bad as Microsoft's, the modern macOS sends a hash of each and every program you run and if their servers are affected, it has a good chance to pull your apps down with it as long as you are connected to the net. And that is just the tip of the iceberg. Not a fan of either system.
- mrtksn 4y ago
  I don't actually care about telemetry, I'm fine with them knowing how I use the apps. That's how better products are made. The problem is that MS puts me in the loop. Just update without telling me, if you fail I don't want to know and if I explicitly remove you from the log in items don't try to re-add yourself. I don't want to have sidekick apps to be able to run one app. Microsoft definitely does some things right but I suspect that the incompetent and evil part of the company is still alive and kicking.
- astrange 4y ago
  It does not do that.
  - justinclift 4y ago
    Wasn't it clearly shown a while back that macOS Gatekeeper does indeed do something along those lines? Doing some searching online is turning up info about it: * https://www.extremetech.com/computing/317371-evaluating-apples-data-collection-in-macos-big-sur https://www.extremetech.com/computing/317371-evaluating-appl... * https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/15/apple-responds-to-gatekeeper-issue-with-upcoming-fixes/ https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/15/apple-responds-to-gatekeep... * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25204909 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25204909 * https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/11/mac-certificate-check-stokes-fears-apple-logs-every-app-you-run/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/11/mac-certificate-chec...
    - astrange 4y ago
      No, it was not clearly shown, because it doesn't do that. The articles saying it does that are wrong. (It sends a team identifier which is not unique per application, and would mostly be the same one since almost everyone mostly uses first party apps. It does this because that's how certificate validation works.)

NayamAmarshe 4y ago

I use Microsoft Edge when I want to remind myself that privacy is dead and people find it empowering. https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf

mark_l_watson 4y ago

That is a good hint, thanks. When using Edge Browser on my iPad Pro and MacBook, I have been immediately going to bing.com and that also works. My wife does not have access to the new service yet, and she is clearly jealous and she didn’t understand why Microsoft can’t just open an expensive to run prototype to the whole world.