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The opening says that the three objects have "now confirmed to have been 'commercial or benign'", but that isn't true. It seems to be based on this quote from t

The opening says that the three objects have "now confirmed to have been 'commercial or benign'", but that isn't true. It seems to be based on this quote from the White House: "The intelligence community is considering as a leading explanation that these could just be balloons tied to some commercial or benign purpose."[1] I was surprised that a seemingly thorough article would make such a mistake, but MSNBC also headlined their own reporting of this statement as "White House says 3 downed objects were commercial or benign."[2] Not great. [1] https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation-world/ct-aud-nw-lake-huron-aerial-object-20230214-5cgahyjlrjfktmjpdikmihln4e-story.html https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation-world/ct-aud-nw-lak... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2jcm7qklWU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2jcm7qklWU

slim 4y ago
you are not good at interpreting white house convoluted speech, journalist are
- junofan 4y ago
  As a citizen, I’d love to hear from President Joe Biden on this issue. Would be great if he’d answer a few questions as well.
  - jdlshore 4y ago
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/ Scroll down to the press briefing. It’s not literally Joe Biden, but it’s his mouthpiece making statements and answering more than a few questions (and being surprisingly playful) on many issues, including this one.
    - panarky 4y ago
      The only thing they know for certain is that they're not aliens, though it's curious how they can be so certain of that when they don't know anything else about the objects.
      - jdlshore 4y ago
        Because they don’t think it’s possible. (I agree.)
    - junofan 4y ago
      That website is great. Would love to hear from the President himself on this issue that’s dominated the national conversation for over a week. Would be excellent if he’d answer a few questions as well.
      - jdlshore 4y ago
        The briefing from the 13th (now on the second page of that site) was extremely detailed and focused on this topic. Worth reading if you’d like to know more. But be prepared for a fair amount of “we don’t know yet.” The question you raised (“can we hear directly from the President?”) does get asked, although the answer is basically “we can’t speak for the President’s speaking schedule, but he’s closely involved in the decision making.” Personally, I don’t see what hearing from Biden directly would add.
        junofan 4y ago
        Excellent. Would love to hear from the Commander in Chief on incursions into our airspace. Would be great if he answered questions, considering many people have them. Would be amazing to hear from the person we voted for who is the final decisionmaker for these decisions about national security. Edit: Coming from a military family, and given that military action has been taken, I strongly believe the American people should be hearing from their Commander in Chief. I don’t accept John Kirby’s excuses. Joe Biden should be the person talking about military action taken against a geopolitical rival, not John Kirby.
        tchock23 4y ago
        Were the latest ones confirmed to be from a geopolitical rival? Biden did talk about the confirmed Chinese balloon.
        Reubachi 4y ago
        Caveat: if you come from a military family you know what the president says in press briefs is to satisfy media, not disseminate information. For obvious reasons. Regardless, the president DID brief about the original incident. Is what you're trying to convey that you would feel safer or more validated if there where continued briefings for the other objects? No point for CIC to put egg on his face to the entire geopolitical landscape by saying "we shot down some US domestic commercial balloons".
ascotan 4y ago
My guess is that the first balloon put people on high alert and anything that's unidentified now has a bullseye on it.
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slim 4y ago

you are not good at interpreting white house convoluted speech, journalist are

junofan 4y ago
As a citizen, I’d love to hear from President Joe Biden on this issue. Would be great if he’d answer a few questions as well.
- jdlshore 4y ago
  https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/ Scroll down to the press briefing. It’s not literally Joe Biden, but it’s his mouthpiece making statements and answering more than a few questions (and being surprisingly playful) on many issues, including this one.
  - panarky 4y ago
    The only thing they know for certain is that they're not aliens, though it's curious how they can be so certain of that when they don't know anything else about the objects.
    - jdlshore 4y ago
      Because they don’t think it’s possible. (I agree.)
  - junofan 4y ago
    That website is great. Would love to hear from the President himself on this issue that’s dominated the national conversation for over a week. Would be excellent if he’d answer a few questions as well.
    - jdlshore 4y ago
      The briefing from the 13th (now on the second page of that site) was extremely detailed and focused on this topic. Worth reading if you’d like to know more. But be prepared for a fair amount of “we don’t know yet.” The question you raised (“can we hear directly from the President?”) does get asked, although the answer is basically “we can’t speak for the President’s speaking schedule, but he’s closely involved in the decision making.” Personally, I don’t see what hearing from Biden directly would add.
      - junofan 4y ago
        Excellent. Would love to hear from the Commander in Chief on incursions into our airspace. Would be great if he answered questions, considering many people have them. Would be amazing to hear from the person we voted for who is the final decisionmaker for these decisions about national security. Edit: Coming from a military family, and given that military action has been taken, I strongly believe the American people should be hearing from their Commander in Chief. I don’t accept John Kirby’s excuses. Joe Biden should be the person talking about military action taken against a geopolitical rival, not John Kirby.
        tchock23 4y ago
        Were the latest ones confirmed to be from a geopolitical rival? Biden did talk about the confirmed Chinese balloon.
        Reubachi 4y ago
        Caveat: if you come from a military family you know what the president says in press briefs is to satisfy media, not disseminate information. For obvious reasons. Regardless, the president DID brief about the original incident. Is what you're trying to convey that you would feel safer or more validated if there where continued briefings for the other objects? No point for CIC to put egg on his face to the entire geopolitical landscape by saying "we shot down some US domestic commercial balloons".

ascotan 4y ago

My guess is that the first balloon put people on high alert and anything that's unidentified now has a bullseye on it.

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