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The thing is, people on the far left and the far right DON’T want a liberal society. They want authoritarianism. They want control to suppress their adversaries
by baron816 4y ago
The thing is, people on the far left and the far right DON’T want a liberal society. They want authoritarianism. They want control to suppress their adversaries.
- realjhol 4y agoThe idea that we can have value-free laws instituted by impartial institutions is a fantasy. By its very nature politics is about rewarding friends and punishing enemies. If the state - any state - regards you as deplorable, then it is totally irrelevant that some piece of paper somewhere might claim you are entitled to some rights. In practice this won't matter. The state will crush you, and the mob will cheer.
- nbardy 4y agoThere is no true scotsman. Doesn't mean we can't have truth
- realjhol 4y agoThat's irrelevant. The fact is that we don't have neutral institutions. Even theoretically it would be extremely unlikely, and in practice it won't happen, chiefly because it would involve people in the in-group making comittiments to deplorable people in the out-group. This might be approximately possible in a united cohesive high-trust society... but that bond of kinship simply doesn't exist anywhere in the West today
- raxxorraxor 4y agoJournalists thought the same while feeling decently smart. They were neither smart nor produced articles worth reading in the end. Anyone can strive to objectivity. Even if you can never reach it, the quality between someone who tries and someone who gives up is tremendous.
- kitsunesoba 4y agoIn the context of the US, everything I’ve seen suggests the right seeks authoritarianism more than the left does, doing things like getting books they don’t agree with banned, working to eliminate the votes of those not aligned with them, and weakening the barrier between church and state.
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- gallopingcomp 4y agoClassic DARVO.
- kitsunesoba 4y agoNobody is calling for anything remotely extreme as your post seems to be hinting at in a tongue-in-cheek manner. From the perspective of someone who sits in the middle with a leaning to the left, it looks to me like the left doesn’t have problems with others holding differing views, so long as following those views doesn’t result in the harm or impediment of liberty of others. Nobody is saying it’s wrong to be be a conservative or republican, they’re saying it’s a problem when e.g. religious fundamentalism worms its way into legislation, because the unavoidable consequence of that is reduced freedom and harm on a mass scale. The constitution defends the rights of those who choose to adhere to religious guidelines, but it does not extend to enforcing them on those who chose otherwise.
- fallingknife 4y agoIn my personal experience the left is much worse at handling disagreement. I have had lefties get angry at my more conservative opinions, but conservatives never seem to get angry when I'm more liberal than them.
- CP3f6kMA 4y agoYou should read about leftist ideologies before making sweeping statements like this.