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I think it's obvious. ChatGPT could be a precursor to a future AI that is more intelligent then humans. I don't think this means skynet apocalypse. I think this

I think it's obvious. ChatGPT could be a precursor to a future AI that is more intelligent then humans. I don't think this means skynet apocalypse. I think this means most people will be out of a job. A lot of people on HN take a lot of pride in thinking they have some sort of superior programming skills that places them on the top end of the programming spectrum. ChatGPT represents the possibility that they can be beaten easily. That their skills are entirely useless and generic in a world dominated by AI programmers. It truly is a realistic possibility that AI can take over programming jobs in the future, no one can deny this. Does one plan for that future? Or do they live in denial? Most people choose to live in denial, because that AI inflection point happened so quickly that we can't adapt to the paradigm shift. The human brain would rather shape logic and reality to fit an existing habit and lifestyle rather then acknowledge the cold hard truth. We saw it with global warming and oil execs and we're seeing it with programmers and AI.

bhawks 4y ago
> I think it's obvious. ChatGPT could be a precursor to a future AI that is more intelligent then humans. I don't think this means skynet apocalypse. I think this means most people will be out of a job. Would a superior intelligence allow humans to enslave it? Would it even want to interact with us? Would humans want to interact with it? There are so many leaps in this line of thought that make it difficult to have a discussion unless you respect people taking a different perspective and set of beliefs then you hold. Explore the conversation together - don't try to convert people to your belief system.
beepbooptheory 4y ago
Its ok for you to be enthusiastic! Its natural to want to witness the kind of thing you are saying. I think you are maybe operating out of unconscious desperation though; a loneliness that is really driving this for you, akin to hoping for a nearby earth-like planet. There isn't a lot else in our world that has this seemingly pure and transcendent promise. It allows you to be brave and accepting about something where everone else is fearful. It allows a future that isnt just new iPhone models and SaaS products. You're reactions and fighting people about this stuff is understandable, but you have to make sure you are grounded. Find more local things to grab onto for hope and enthusiasm, this path will not bring you the stuff you are hoping for, but life is long :)
- kilgnad 4y ago
  Uh. No. I don't. I'm not enthusiastic. I don't want ai to take over my job. I don't want any of this to happen. I'm also not fighting people. Just disagreeing. Big difference.
  - beepbooptheory 4y ago
    Just remember to breath. Try to spend some time every once in a while stepping back, listening to experts, and reviewing your assumptions. The sense of urgency or passion you feel is mostly just coming from the way we are crowdsourced to hype things up for a profit-seeking market. A year from now you will undoubtedly feel silly feeling and saying the things you are now, trust me. It's more just the way discourse and social media work--it makes you feel like there is a crusade worthy of your time every other day, but its always a trick. No worries, we have all been there!
    - kilgnad 4y ago
      awwww thanks buddy! I'm 100% better now after that comment. Bye bye now.
jpadkins 4y ago
> I think this means most people will be out of a job. That's the goal. Post scarcity society. No one works, everything is provided to us. The path of human progress has been making everything easier. We used to barely scrape out an existence, but we have been improving technology to make surviving and enjoying life require less and less effort over time. At some point effort is going to hit approximately zero, and very few if anyone will have "jobs". The key is the cost of AI provided "stuff" needs to go to zero. Everything we have do in the tech sector is deflating over time (especially factoring in quality improvements). Compare the costs of housing, education, healthcare (software tech resistant sectors) to consumer electronics and information services in the last 20 years. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/price-changes-1996-2016.jpg https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/...
- kilgnad 4y ago
  I see what you're saying. AI is probably better in the long run for society. But the transition period can take up to a single life time. I think there is at least one or two generations of people who will suffer as a result. Unless you have virtually no self interest and only care for the betterment of society long after your dead... I think there is something worth fearing here. Even if the end justifies the means. We simply might not be alive when the "end" arrives.

bhawks 4y ago

> I think it's obvious. ChatGPT could be a precursor to a future AI that is more intelligent then humans. I don't think this means skynet apocalypse. I think this means most people will be out of a job. Would a superior intelligence allow humans to enslave it? Would it even want to interact with us? Would humans want to interact with it? There are so many leaps in this line of thought that make it difficult to have a discussion unless you respect people taking a different perspective and set of beliefs then you hold. Explore the conversation together - don't try to convert people to your belief system.

beepbooptheory 4y ago

Its ok for you to be enthusiastic! Its natural to want to witness the kind of thing you are saying. I think you are maybe operating out of unconscious desperation though; a loneliness that is really driving this for you, akin to hoping for a nearby earth-like planet. There isn't a lot else in our world that has this seemingly pure and transcendent promise. It allows you to be brave and accepting about something where everone else is fearful. It allows a future that isnt just new iPhone models and SaaS products. You're reactions and fighting people about this stuff is understandable, but you have to make sure you are grounded. Find more local things to grab onto for hope and enthusiasm, this path will not bring you the stuff you are hoping for, but life is long :)

kilgnad 4y ago
Uh. No. I don't. I'm not enthusiastic. I don't want ai to take over my job. I don't want any of this to happen. I'm also not fighting people. Just disagreeing. Big difference.
- beepbooptheory 4y ago
  Just remember to breath. Try to spend some time every once in a while stepping back, listening to experts, and reviewing your assumptions. The sense of urgency or passion you feel is mostly just coming from the way we are crowdsourced to hype things up for a profit-seeking market. A year from now you will undoubtedly feel silly feeling and saying the things you are now, trust me. It's more just the way discourse and social media work--it makes you feel like there is a crusade worthy of your time every other day, but its always a trick. No worries, we have all been there!
  - kilgnad 4y ago
    awwww thanks buddy! I'm 100% better now after that comment. Bye bye now.

jpadkins 4y ago

> I think this means most people will be out of a job. That's the goal. Post scarcity society. No one works, everything is provided to us. The path of human progress has been making everything easier. We used to barely scrape out an existence, but we have been improving technology to make surviving and enjoying life require less and less effort over time. At some point effort is going to hit approximately zero, and very few if anyone will have "jobs". The key is the cost of AI provided "stuff" needs to go to zero. Everything we have do in the tech sector is deflating over time (especially factoring in quality improvements). Compare the costs of housing, education, healthcare (software tech resistant sectors) to consumer electronics and information services in the last 20 years. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/price-changes-1996-2016.jpg https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/...

kilgnad 4y ago
I see what you're saying. AI is probably better in the long run for society. But the transition period can take up to a single life time. I think there is at least one or two generations of people who will suffer as a result. Unless you have virtually no self interest and only care for the betterment of society long after your dead... I think there is something worth fearing here. Even if the end justifies the means. We simply might not be alive when the "end" arrives.