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wage labor is also theft. before you claim "but the worker agreed to it", also recognize that by being a citizen of a country, you agree to pay their taxes. if

wage labor is also theft. before you claim "but the worker agreed to it", also recognize that by being a citizen of a country, you agree to pay their taxes. if your response to people telling you that wage labor is theft is "then don't work" then you should also agree that if you don't like taxes, move elsewhere. you'll then realize that it (as well as the option to not work) are not viable options and that both wage labor and taxation are coercion. taxation with representation but also employee representation.

ghiculescu 4y ago
This makes no sense. Name a country you can become a citizen of, as easily as getting a new job.
- chii 4y ago
  Not a citizen, but there's a lot of countries that you can incorporate without being a citizen, for tax purposes. liechtenstein for example. So taxation is indeed a competitive sphere (but it's only for the rich, not for the those of working wage).
  - ghiculescu 4y ago
    Liechtenstein, population 39k? I would say this proves my point. It’s not something most people can do (unlike getting a new job).
- linkjuice4all 4y ago
  It’s like they set up a bunch of secret clubs and will only let people become members by paying for access or trading your skills and labor for permission to live there. That’s why these “taxation = theft” arguments are so stupid. Of course there is no where else you can go where you won’t get taxed because society costs money to maintain. You can try “hiding” inside a country and avoid contributing but at some point that country or society is going to notice that you’re taking and not contributing and they’ll deal with you accordingly. If you don’t have any money you’ll probably get locked up - if you do they might try to take it and lock you up anyway. And then maybe you’ll wish that someone would give you basic assistance to pay for society because you no longer can.
carlosjobim 4y ago
> being a citizen of a country, you agree to pay their taxes. Literally born into servitude.

ghiculescu 4y ago

This makes no sense. Name a country you can become a citizen of, as easily as getting a new job.

chii 4y ago
Not a citizen, but there's a lot of countries that you can incorporate without being a citizen, for tax purposes. liechtenstein for example. So taxation is indeed a competitive sphere (but it's only for the rich, not for the those of working wage).
- ghiculescu 4y ago
  Liechtenstein, population 39k? I would say this proves my point. It’s not something most people can do (unlike getting a new job).
linkjuice4all 4y ago
It’s like they set up a bunch of secret clubs and will only let people become members by paying for access or trading your skills and labor for permission to live there. That’s why these “taxation = theft” arguments are so stupid. Of course there is no where else you can go where you won’t get taxed because society costs money to maintain. You can try “hiding” inside a country and avoid contributing but at some point that country or society is going to notice that you’re taking and not contributing and they’ll deal with you accordingly. If you don’t have any money you’ll probably get locked up - if you do they might try to take it and lock you up anyway. And then maybe you’ll wish that someone would give you basic assistance to pay for society because you no longer can.

carlosjobim 4y ago

> being a citizen of a country, you agree to pay their taxes. Literally born into servitude.