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Remember when we needed germs to exercise our immune systems? Remember immune systems?

by bilsbie 4y ago

deegles 4y ago
let me know how your exercise with avian flu, yellow fever, HIV, ebola, hepatitis, etc etc etc goes.
- guntherhermann 4y ago
  1) Cool it with the snark 2) Ebola, Yellow Fever, HIV & Hepatitis aren't airborne, so probably wouldn't be the kind of viruses that the parent is talking about
  - deegles 4y ago
    They'll just have to chime in and clarify which pathogens they meant. I was snarky because the idea of "exercising the immune system" is misinformation and used by "immunity debt" proponents.
2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
I think there is a big difference between exercising your immune system and creating a Petri dish for air borne diseases. If COVID has taught us anything, it’s that ventilation in many buildings sucks big time. We need to either improve ventilation, or start killing viruses. I mean, if you’re going to go the naturalistic angle, then what’s natural about squashing people into buildings with poor air flow?
- ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
  > ventilation in many buildings sucks We've known that for a long time[0]. I have friends that are plumbers and HVAC people, that have to do strange stuff, by law. [0] https://www.cdc.gov/legionella/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/legionella/index.html
  - eutectic 4y ago
    Can you expand on this enigmatic comment?
    - ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
      Just that Legionnaire's Disease has caused a whole lot of laws and codes to be created. Things like that weird gap under industrial sinks.
      - ragazzina 4y ago
        Are you sure the gap under the sink is due to Legionnaire's Disease? I think it's just not to contaminate the sink in case of backflow.
        ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
        According to my industrial plumber friend (over 40 years), the distance is set by law, and it is specifically for Legionnaire's Disease. Whole bunch of other stuff, too. He worked on skyscrapers all over NYC.
marcosdumay 4y ago
Or maybe the 20th century increase in allergies was caused by the sheer amount of bad stuff we created, or maybe it's because of the sheer concentration of badly ventilated environments where hundreds of people pass through every day. AFAIK, there is no good evidence about any of those hypothesis, and weak ones for them all.

Remember when we needed germs to exercise our immune systems? Remember immune systems?

deegles 4y ago

let me know how your exercise with avian flu, yellow fever, HIV, ebola, hepatitis, etc etc etc goes.

guntherhermann 4y ago
1) Cool it with the snark 2) Ebola, Yellow Fever, HIV & Hepatitis aren't airborne, so probably wouldn't be the kind of viruses that the parent is talking about
- deegles 4y ago
  They'll just have to chime in and clarify which pathogens they meant. I was snarky because the idea of "exercising the immune system" is misinformation and used by "immunity debt" proponents.

2muchcoffeeman 4y ago

I think there is a big difference between exercising your immune system and creating a Petri dish for air borne diseases. If COVID has taught us anything, it’s that ventilation in many buildings sucks big time. We need to either improve ventilation, or start killing viruses. I mean, if you’re going to go the naturalistic angle, then what’s natural about squashing people into buildings with poor air flow?

ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
> ventilation in many buildings sucks We've known that for a long time[0]. I have friends that are plumbers and HVAC people, that have to do strange stuff, by law. [0] https://www.cdc.gov/legionella/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/legionella/index.html
- eutectic 4y ago
  Can you expand on this enigmatic comment?
  - ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
    Just that Legionnaire's Disease has caused a whole lot of laws and codes to be created. Things like that weird gap under industrial sinks.
    - ragazzina 4y ago
      Are you sure the gap under the sink is due to Legionnaire's Disease? I think it's just not to contaminate the sink in case of backflow.
      - ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
        According to my industrial plumber friend (over 40 years), the distance is set by law, and it is specifically for Legionnaire's Disease. Whole bunch of other stuff, too. He worked on skyscrapers all over NYC.

marcosdumay 4y ago

Or maybe the 20th century increase in allergies was caused by the sheer amount of bad stuff we created, or maybe it's because of the sheer concentration of badly ventilated environments where hundreds of people pass through every day. AFAIK, there is no good evidence about any of those hypothesis, and weak ones for them all.