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"Hyundai and Kia forced to update software on millions of vehicles because of viral TikTok challenge" is the original title. i did my best to preserve it. one

by gwill 4y ago

"Hyundai and Kia forced to update software on millions of vehicles because of viral TikTok challenge" is the original title. i did my best to preserve it. one thing that irritates me about this is the keyword "forced". This issue started in 2020, with numbers going up to nearly 20 cars stolen per day. Seems like a very slow and labored response to such a terrible problem with their cars.

kube-system 4y ago
There were 2220 cars stolen per day in 2020. While token bypass is a problem, I suspect that the biggest vulnerability is that nearly all cars lack MFA. Steal the token and you can steal the car.
- InitialLastName 4y ago
  I can't imagine the hell that borrowing a friend's car will be in a world that requires MFA to start the engine.
  - charlieyu1 4y ago
    I can't imagine a world where thieves get away with their crimes so easily neither.
  - poglet 4y ago
    A password or PIN might work if sharing cars.
- katbyte 4y ago
  here in vancovuer canada the police started a baitcar (and bait bike/boat) program that proved very effective at discouraging car thefts. This what police should be doing instead of going after people selling drugs or giving out speeding tickets.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    According to wikipedia, BC's program was modeled after a program started by Minneapolis police in 1998. Bait car programs are pretty well known in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait_Car_(TV_series) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait_Car_(TV_series) And police in the recent problem areas have been doing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAZh6D9sftw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAZh6D9sftw
  - selectodude 4y ago
    Bait cars are racist now. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/police-bait-truck-filled-with-nike-shoes-angers-black-chicago-residents.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/police-bait-truc...
    - kube-system 4y ago
      The racist part in this article is not a bait car. The story isn’t even about a bait car, the bait was merchandise. It’s that a black neighborhood was targeted and the vehicle was filled with stereotypical merchandise.

by gwill 4y ago

kube-system 4y ago

There were 2220 cars stolen per day in 2020. While token bypass is a problem, I suspect that the biggest vulnerability is that nearly all cars lack MFA. Steal the token and you can steal the car.

InitialLastName 4y ago
I can't imagine the hell that borrowing a friend's car will be in a world that requires MFA to start the engine.
- charlieyu1 4y ago
  I can't imagine a world where thieves get away with their crimes so easily neither.
- poglet 4y ago
  A password or PIN might work if sharing cars.
katbyte 4y ago
here in vancovuer canada the police started a baitcar (and bait bike/boat) program that proved very effective at discouraging car thefts. This what police should be doing instead of going after people selling drugs or giving out speeding tickets.
- kube-system 4y ago
  According to wikipedia, BC's program was modeled after a program started by Minneapolis police in 1998. Bait car programs are pretty well known in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait_Car_(TV_series) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait_Car_(TV_series) And police in the recent problem areas have been doing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAZh6D9sftw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAZh6D9sftw
- selectodude 4y ago
  Bait cars are racist now. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/police-bait-truck-filled-with-nike-shoes-angers-black-chicago-residents.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/police-bait-truc...
  - kube-system 4y ago
    The racist part in this article is not a bait car. The story isn’t even about a bait car, the bait was merchandise. It’s that a black neighborhood was targeted and the vehicle was filled with stereotypical merchandise.