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> Annoyance: they were in charge of acquiring and rolling out the software the factories used! Why were the floor managers demanding that they integrate our sof
by AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
> Annoyance: they were in charge of acquiring and rolling out the software the factories used! Why were the floor managers demanding that they integrate our software? What do they know about software, enterprise contract negotiation, etc!? How dare they!
Ok, so this one I actually kind of agree with. Too many times I was in a position where a bunch of decisions were made about software or hardware, and then IT was brought in at the last minute to try and get it all to work in an unreasonable time frame. And then IT was asked it integrate it in impossible ways.
If another department brings IT in early, different story. I got in to IT to use technology to make people's lives easier, not to play with whatever the latest fad bullshit is or develop an inflated sense of self-worth. If some random nobody's software is going to do that at the cost of a minor annoyance to me, that's fine.
- count 4y agoHaving worked both sides of this, it's generally the case that IT is absolutely terrible at their job that ends up with them getting called in late.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y agoThat's fair, 90% of people are shit at their jobs. I'm just saying, if it is me, I'm definitely upset you did that and I think I'm justified in that.
- pixl97 4y agoCompany: "IT is terrible at their jobs, what are we going to do about this!" IT director: "Give me a budget to hire competent IT people" Company: "On the other hand, we're ok with this IT incompetence"
- yamazakiwi 4y agoInteresting, in my experience generally it's business types that don't know shit from their elbow and don't include IT early enough due to negligence.
- marcosdumay 4y agoI would guess that completely incompetent IT departments that only degrades everybody's work are very highly correlated to workplaces that use those huge, all in 1, hired consultants based software packages.
- antod 4y agoSounds like a good reason to bring them in even earlier
- LorenPechtel 4y agoMy experience is admittedly limited but every case I've seen of IT being called in late was that IT would have reasons for no. The VP didn't even learn their lesson when circumventing IT ended up with all corporate e-mail down for nearly a week. (As predicted, although it ended up taking longer to fix because I was on the other side of the world, internet access but unreachable by phone.)
- lmm 4y agoA low-trust environment is exhausting for everyone, and a difficult pit to climb out of.