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You can also get a similar board with that CPU here: https://libre.computer/products/aml-s905x-cc/ https://libre.computer/products/aml-s905x-cc/ It's optimized

You can also get a similar board with that CPU here: https://libre.computer/products/aml-s905x-cc/ https://libre.computer/products/aml-s905x-cc/ It's optimized for mainline Linux and since u-boot supports UEFI booting, you can just throw a downloaded Fedora arm64 image on it and it will boot.

NayamAmarshe 4y ago
+1 for Libre Computer. Le Potato is awesome.
Maursault 4y ago
> you can just throw a downloaded Fedora arm64 image on it and it will boot. I know what you meant, but I have known and loathed hardware for which this would occur quite literally
kelvie 4y ago
Oh wow, if this had an M.2 slot i'd consider getting these for my home k8s cluster (I use rpi4s which are hard to get and such cause USB SSDs are flaky with power, and an odroid M1, which has a pretty slow processor, but is otherwise perfect)
- tracker1 4y ago
  I've found the Argon power supplies (18W, 3.5A) for RPi are probably the best option when using USB powered storage... I swapped out the ones that came with my DeskPi cases. I have tried several, an earlier model didn't have the inline switch, which I don't really use but a nice to have feature. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0919CQKQ8/ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0919CQKQ8/
wyldfire 4y ago
I've had trouble sourcing reliable SD cards for these SBCs. I have had the Le Potato, ODROIDs, RasPis. And they will generally work really well 98% of the time. But I keep them in a closet and I hate that I need to service them once a year or so. I tried buying SD cards from several different retailers and never got reliable results like from SATA SSDs (or even rotating disks it seems). I eventually just bought an intel NUC which I saw as a big defeat but also a remarkably practical solution.
- NotYourLawyer 4y ago
  SD cards are flaky in general.
- mikepurvis 4y ago
  Can you network boot a Raspi? This source seems to think so, as of the 3B+, anyway: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/network-boot-raspberry-pi-without-microsd/ https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/network-boot-raspberry-pi-with... I guess it requires them to be on wired network, but if they're in a closet, that's probably the case anyway.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
    Yep, I've done network boot with mine. It's a lot easier these days since you don't have to manually generate an initramfs with the modules.
- paraselene_ 4y ago
  What cards have you tried? If you stick with general-use mSD card these days they'll most likely be TLC. The issue mostly is they don't* support TRIM unlike an SSD, and they use bottom-of-the-barrel flash chips (cause consumer grade, pricing is important here). Pony up a bit more cash for "high endurance" grade (mostly MLC), or even industrial SLC cards at a much higher price point. My current roster for my small pi4 cluster is a mix of Samsung Pro Endurance, SanDisk High Endurance and Kioxia High Endurance. So far they've been working pretty great for me. Last time I checked they're about $15-25 a pop, which isn't cheap but not that bad either. I've been meaning to checkout SanDisk's max endurance which supposedly has much better write cycles, which I'll probably do after the card in my dashcam dies. *On SBCs you could do something *like* trim, but it's not as straight forward, and support depends on the controller of the card wildly.
- arglebargle123 4y ago
  I've given up on SD cards for general purpose OS disk storage, I use small (≤16GB) SD cards for boot and small mSATA or m.2 SSDs in USB3 enclosures for everything else. Performance and reliability are drastically better, SMART gives you a heads up when a drive starts lotlike it will need replacement, cost isn't even much of an issue if you source your SSDs from fleaBay.
Jasper_ 4y ago
Oh hey, the Amlogic chips. I worked for a company that wanted to turn an Amlogic S805 STB kit into a Linux computer. I think the reason that it works fairly well out of the box is because of some of the drivers we contributed to the effort :) Their display controller driver was fun to figure out. https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/drivers/gpu/drm/meson https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/drivers/gpu/dr...
doublepg23 4y ago
Wow, I've been looking for a replacement for my ancient BeagleBone Black for ages. This fits the bill to a T! 64 bit, mainline linux, u-boot, it's all there. And for less than I bought the BBB for. Thanks for the link!

NayamAmarshe 4y ago

+1 for Libre Computer. Le Potato is awesome.

Maursault 4y ago

> you can just throw a downloaded Fedora arm64 image on it and it will boot. I know what you meant, but I have known and loathed hardware for which this would occur quite literally

kelvie 4y ago

Oh wow, if this had an M.2 slot i'd consider getting these for my home k8s cluster (I use rpi4s which are hard to get and such cause USB SSDs are flaky with power, and an odroid M1, which has a pretty slow processor, but is otherwise perfect)

tracker1 4y ago
I've found the Argon power supplies (18W, 3.5A) for RPi are probably the best option when using USB powered storage... I swapped out the ones that came with my DeskPi cases. I have tried several, an earlier model didn't have the inline switch, which I don't really use but a nice to have feature. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0919CQKQ8/ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0919CQKQ8/

wyldfire 4y ago

I've had trouble sourcing reliable SD cards for these SBCs. I have had the Le Potato, ODROIDs, RasPis. And they will generally work really well 98% of the time. But I keep them in a closet and I hate that I need to service them once a year or so. I tried buying SD cards from several different retailers and never got reliable results like from SATA SSDs (or even rotating disks it seems). I eventually just bought an intel NUC which I saw as a big defeat but also a remarkably practical solution.

NotYourLawyer 4y ago
SD cards are flaky in general.
mikepurvis 4y ago
Can you network boot a Raspi? This source seems to think so, as of the 3B+, anyway: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/network-boot-raspberry-pi-without-microsd/ https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/network-boot-raspberry-pi-with... I guess it requires them to be on wired network, but if they're in a closet, that's probably the case anyway.
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
  Yep, I've done network boot with mine. It's a lot easier these days since you don't have to manually generate an initramfs with the modules.
paraselene_ 4y ago
What cards have you tried? If you stick with general-use mSD card these days they'll most likely be TLC. The issue mostly is they don't* support TRIM unlike an SSD, and they use bottom-of-the-barrel flash chips (cause consumer grade, pricing is important here). Pony up a bit more cash for "high endurance" grade (mostly MLC), or even industrial SLC cards at a much higher price point. My current roster for my small pi4 cluster is a mix of Samsung Pro Endurance, SanDisk High Endurance and Kioxia High Endurance. So far they've been working pretty great for me. Last time I checked they're about $15-25 a pop, which isn't cheap but not that bad either. I've been meaning to checkout SanDisk's max endurance which supposedly has much better write cycles, which I'll probably do after the card in my dashcam dies. *On SBCs you could do something *like* trim, but it's not as straight forward, and support depends on the controller of the card wildly.
arglebargle123 4y ago
I've given up on SD cards for general purpose OS disk storage, I use small (≤16GB) SD cards for boot and small mSATA or m.2 SSDs in USB3 enclosures for everything else. Performance and reliability are drastically better, SMART gives you a heads up when a drive starts lotlike it will need replacement, cost isn't even much of an issue if you source your SSDs from fleaBay.

Jasper_ 4y ago

Oh hey, the Amlogic chips. I worked for a company that wanted to turn an Amlogic S805 STB kit into a Linux computer. I think the reason that it works fairly well out of the box is because of some of the drivers we contributed to the effort :) Their display controller driver was fun to figure out. https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/drivers/gpu/drm/meson https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/drivers/gpu/dr...

doublepg23 4y ago

Wow, I've been looking for a replacement for my ancient BeagleBone Black for ages. This fits the bill to a T! 64 bit, mainline linux, u-boot, it's all there. And for less than I bought the BBB for. Thanks for the link!