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"there's no evidence to support the things you are saying, but they're wrong." Is it really hard to believe that activities that rely on communication thrive i

"there's no evidence to support the things you are saying, but they're wrong." Is it really hard to believe that activities that rely on communication thrive in environments that support high-bandwidth communication? nb: lack of evidence does not substantiate the absence of something, it may mean nobody has bothered to collect the evidence (or that the evidence is difficult to capture).

rybosworld 4y ago
Why did you append "but they're wrong" to my quote? That's not different than lying.
- MAGZine 4y ago
  It's not lying, that's how your comment came across to me. It was extremely dismissive. A simple 'but could you provide evidence?' would be fine. But no--it was more akin to "there is no evidence, your argument is invalid." Maybe you didn't use the word 'wrong', but you did dismiss their opinion without consideration, and then proceeded to commit the same fallacy so as to prove a point. So not only was your comment dismissive, but it was devoid of content or constructive conversation. Actually, the inclusion of the counter example actually made it the opposite of constructive imo. Why participate in the same rhetoric you're throwing out, even for example, when what you're saying is already quite clear? This isn't debate club. It's a conversation.
  - rybosworld 4y ago
    "It's not lying, that's how your comment came across to me" - altering a quotation in order to change it's meaning is lying. The fact that you interpreted what I said in your own way does not change that. The OP's argument is invalid because there is no evidence. It seems silly to discuss that point further. "proceeded to commit the same fallacy so as to prove a point" - what fallacy is that? I never made any broad assertions and stated them as fact. I even stated that I was providing my own anecdote. The OP did the opposite. That is, they stated their anecdotal experience as fact. How any of this could be misinterpreted is beyond understanding, and is a you problem. In my opinion, it seems like you are having a reading comprehension issue here.
    - MAGZine 4y ago
      You've fundamentally missed the point that I was making in order to take more 'technically correct' potshots. Perhaps you should try to internalize the whole of my comment (i.e. comprehend it) before trying to reply again. Sniping individual pieces by being needlessly pedantic is--again--not productive to conversation. Anyhow, I won't be replying again unless if you have something constructive to add to the conversation; I'm not interested in debate club with you. Perhaps ChatGPT is though!
lordnacho 4y ago
He's just saying "your word is as good as mine". Neither side is bringing any evidence. You can throw in all sorts of argumentation, eg remote people have more time, you can get better people casting a wider net, and so on. But until someone does a proper study you don't know what arguments are backed up by data.

rybosworld 4y ago

Why did you append "but they're wrong" to my quote? That's not different than lying.

MAGZine 4y ago
It's not lying, that's how your comment came across to me. It was extremely dismissive. A simple 'but could you provide evidence?' would be fine. But no--it was more akin to "there is no evidence, your argument is invalid." Maybe you didn't use the word 'wrong', but you did dismiss their opinion without consideration, and then proceeded to commit the same fallacy so as to prove a point. So not only was your comment dismissive, but it was devoid of content or constructive conversation. Actually, the inclusion of the counter example actually made it the opposite of constructive imo. Why participate in the same rhetoric you're throwing out, even for example, when what you're saying is already quite clear? This isn't debate club. It's a conversation.
- rybosworld 4y ago
  "It's not lying, that's how your comment came across to me" - altering a quotation in order to change it's meaning is lying. The fact that you interpreted what I said in your own way does not change that. The OP's argument is invalid because there is no evidence. It seems silly to discuss that point further. "proceeded to commit the same fallacy so as to prove a point" - what fallacy is that? I never made any broad assertions and stated them as fact. I even stated that I was providing my own anecdote. The OP did the opposite. That is, they stated their anecdotal experience as fact. How any of this could be misinterpreted is beyond understanding, and is a you problem. In my opinion, it seems like you are having a reading comprehension issue here.
  - MAGZine 4y ago
    You've fundamentally missed the point that I was making in order to take more 'technically correct' potshots. Perhaps you should try to internalize the whole of my comment (i.e. comprehend it) before trying to reply again. Sniping individual pieces by being needlessly pedantic is--again--not productive to conversation. Anyhow, I won't be replying again unless if you have something constructive to add to the conversation; I'm not interested in debate club with you. Perhaps ChatGPT is though!

lordnacho 4y ago

He's just saying "your word is as good as mine". Neither side is bringing any evidence. You can throw in all sorts of argumentation, eg remote people have more time, you can get better people casting a wider net, and so on. But until someone does a proper study you don't know what arguments are backed up by data.