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I don't disagree with you. I invite you to take a step back and stand in the shoes of someone who is exhibiting "carbon entitled behaviour". Do you think what y

I don't disagree with you. I invite you to take a step back and stand in the shoes of someone who is exhibiting "carbon entitled behaviour". Do you think what you're saying here and your hardline stance on measures is going to get them to behave closer to your ideal? If not, how else are you going to make this happen? A lot of these people are politicians, so "just impose a higher tax" isn't a measure, it is a result of a measure (that measure being convincing those people to do what you want). You say we don't have time for a communist revolution. We don't have time for any kind of revolution, because revolutions famously don't really work or improve anything. This is extra relevant because your other statements still lean on the premise of a revolution happening, just one with consequences you think are more important than communism.

runarberg 4y ago
While I actually believe capitalism is a huge contributor to the climate crisis I don't think it is solely responsible. I don't rule out that in an alternative communist universe governments would have acted equally recklessly and created a similar mess. I think that the only real idealism which could have prevented this is actual democracy where power isn't unevenly distributed among the wealthy class, and working class people would have an actual say in theyr governments climate policy (which could happen under communism but not guaranteed to). You actually hint at the democratic fault by accurately observing the role of politicians among the carbon elite and the carbon hogs. As for revolutions. I don't think what I'm calling for is anywhere near to a revolution. We only have to reduce our meat consumption and our private car travels. We consumed less meat and drove less just a couple of decades ago—at the start of this mess. And today we have technology and—more imortantly—infrastructure to mitigate some of the pain of this reduction. Ideally we need to go far further but like you correctly said, we don't have time for that.

runarberg 4y ago

While I actually believe capitalism is a huge contributor to the climate crisis I don't think it is solely responsible. I don't rule out that in an alternative communist universe governments would have acted equally recklessly and created a similar mess. I think that the only real idealism which could have prevented this is actual democracy where power isn't unevenly distributed among the wealthy class, and working class people would have an actual say in theyr governments climate policy (which could happen under communism but not guaranteed to). You actually hint at the democratic fault by accurately observing the role of politicians among the carbon elite and the carbon hogs. As for revolutions. I don't think what I'm calling for is anywhere near to a revolution. We only have to reduce our meat consumption and our private car travels. We consumed less meat and drove less just a couple of decades ago—at the start of this mess. And today we have technology and—more imortantly—infrastructure to mitigate some of the pain of this reduction. Ideally we need to go far further but like you correctly said, we don't have time for that.