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Ukraine will not win. No amount of dumping money into a country is going to help with this size difference, unless many more countries mobilise their actual mil

Ukraine will not win. No amount of dumping money into a country is going to help with this size difference, unless many more countries mobilise their actual military. That won't happen because then it goes from a regional conflict to a large-scale war and more countries might feel like meddling. Then there might be a world war.

pjc50 4y ago
They're already, slowly, winning? And I think people have forgotten that the massive size difference didn't help America win in Afghanistan, Iraq, or Vietnam - in the long term. It's going to be a long war, though. It's effectively been running for a decade already.
- staunton 4y ago
  The problem is that there is no reason to believe the war would stop even if Ukraine managed to push all Russian troops from their territory (with or without Crimea), which is quite unlikely in the first place. In fact, I've yet to hear a single concrete scenario for how that war could end other than with either government collapsing. I don't believe the Russian government will collapse any time soon. Assuming China will attack Taiwan in the meantime, which I think is a lot more likely than not, it seems the world is looking at a lot of war indeed, perhaps even global. Even more senseless killing while issues like the climate and global poverty will lose the little relevance they have now. The future seems really sad.
  - actionfromafar 4y ago
    At least I can't see how the current Russian administration could survive a loss in the Ukraine. On top of that, if the war drags on for years, the sanctions and general production losses are going to bite. Various far regions of Russia (Vladivostok?) may start looking for options. No need for overt rebellion, just tactically ignoring edicts from Moscow may crack the federation. The future seems sad yes, but this situation didn't appear out of nowhere. The dragon seed in Russia (and China) has been growing for decades.
- pasquinelli 4y ago
  > They're already, slowly, winning? but maybe they're actually not? if they're losing, this is how it'll be reported to you: they're winning -> they're winning -> they've nearly won -> *silence for years* -> ukraine is now part of russia, bringing the decades-long quagmire to an end.

pjc50 4y ago

They're already, slowly, winning? And I think people have forgotten that the massive size difference didn't help America win in Afghanistan, Iraq, or Vietnam - in the long term. It's going to be a long war, though. It's effectively been running for a decade already.

staunton 4y ago
The problem is that there is no reason to believe the war would stop even if Ukraine managed to push all Russian troops from their territory (with or without Crimea), which is quite unlikely in the first place. In fact, I've yet to hear a single concrete scenario for how that war could end other than with either government collapsing. I don't believe the Russian government will collapse any time soon. Assuming China will attack Taiwan in the meantime, which I think is a lot more likely than not, it seems the world is looking at a lot of war indeed, perhaps even global. Even more senseless killing while issues like the climate and global poverty will lose the little relevance they have now. The future seems really sad.
- actionfromafar 4y ago
  At least I can't see how the current Russian administration could survive a loss in the Ukraine. On top of that, if the war drags on for years, the sanctions and general production losses are going to bite. Various far regions of Russia (Vladivostok?) may start looking for options. No need for overt rebellion, just tactically ignoring edicts from Moscow may crack the federation. The future seems sad yes, but this situation didn't appear out of nowhere. The dragon seed in Russia (and China) has been growing for decades.
pasquinelli 4y ago
> They're already, slowly, winning? but maybe they're actually not? if they're losing, this is how it'll be reported to you: they're winning -> they're winning -> they've nearly won -> *silence for years* -> ukraine is now part of russia, bringing the decades-long quagmire to an end.