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As a lifetime remote dev it does kind of suck. People have been let in on my secret and now jobs have reduced, it'll be a lot more competitive. On the other ha

As a lifetime remote dev it does kind of suck. People have been let in on my secret and now jobs have reduced, it'll be a lot more competitive. On the other hand remote allows you to work for other countries. So there are still options if your cost of living is low.

Mountain_Skies 4y ago
At a previous job, we seemed to have had a "don't ask, don't tell" policy when it came to remote workers logging in from outside of their home country. Then we had a member of the infosec team start logging in from a war zone and the policy suddenly because crystal clear that logins would only be accepted from the employee's home country unless permission was granted ahead of time and programmed into the VPN.
- toomuchtodo 4y ago
  I've seen folks solve for this by VPNing into a family member's residential connection in an acceptable (to the business) jurisdiction before connecting to the corp VPN. Risk tolerance decision. Like having to VPN home so Netflix doesn't take your password sharing away. I make no judgement either way on the topic; I'm simply speaking in technical capability terms. Edit: @Aeolun https://old.reddit.com/r/YouShouldKnow/comments/10zvbgf/ysk_that_you_can_set_up_a_free_vpn_server_on_your https://old.reddit.com/r/YouShouldKnow/comments/10zvbgf/ysk_... (from a quick google search vs an in thread explanation)
  - bobleeswagger 4y ago
    > Netflix doesn't take your password sharing away That's a weird way to frame Netflix enforcing the ToS users like you agreed to.
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    - datavirtue 4y ago
      Market activity
    - ipaddr 4y ago
      The same tos they changed to say that? The same company who's ceo encouraged this at the peak of everyone signing up? It's a little bit creepy that you used the word weird in a negative way here.
    - Gigachad 4y ago
      It's not even that shocking of a term. Pretty much every single gym these days uses facial recognition on their CCTV to prevent key sharing.
  - Mountain_Skies 4y ago
    Certainly, doable and possibly detectable if one knew to look for it, but likely would work in 99% of cases. Does seem prone to breakage.
  - Aeolun 4y ago
    That only really works if you can leave your office PC somewhere in their house?
    - piva00 4y ago
      Not necessarily, you create a VPN to go through the house first (leave a server for it there, configured for high uptime), VPN through there first and then tunnel the office/work VPN through that tunnel.
- xdfgh1112 4y ago
  My contract says "anywhere with a decent internet connection" for location.
sokoloff 4y ago
Even with these waves of RTO, surely there will be vastly more remote jobs in 2024 than there were 5 years prior.
- NiloCK 4y ago
  I think the point is that if remote roles have 10xed in this time, the number who consider themselves remote-only have 20xed.
  - xdfgh1112 4y ago
    Exactly. I'd wager more than 20x - precovid remote work was very much a niche thing, now it's almost expected by a large percentage of devs.

Mountain_Skies 4y ago

At a previous job, we seemed to have had a "don't ask, don't tell" policy when it came to remote workers logging in from outside of their home country. Then we had a member of the infosec team start logging in from a war zone and the policy suddenly because crystal clear that logins would only be accepted from the employee's home country unless permission was granted ahead of time and programmed into the VPN.

toomuchtodo 4y ago
I've seen folks solve for this by VPNing into a family member's residential connection in an acceptable (to the business) jurisdiction before connecting to the corp VPN. Risk tolerance decision. Like having to VPN home so Netflix doesn't take your password sharing away. I make no judgement either way on the topic; I'm simply speaking in technical capability terms. Edit: @Aeolun https://old.reddit.com/r/YouShouldKnow/comments/10zvbgf/ysk_that_you_can_set_up_a_free_vpn_server_on_your https://old.reddit.com/r/YouShouldKnow/comments/10zvbgf/ysk_... (from a quick google search vs an in thread explanation)
- bobleeswagger 4y ago
  > Netflix doesn't take your password sharing away That's a weird way to frame Netflix enforcing the ToS users like you agreed to.
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  - datavirtue 4y ago
    Market activity
  - ipaddr 4y ago
    The same tos they changed to say that? The same company who's ceo encouraged this at the peak of everyone signing up? It's a little bit creepy that you used the word weird in a negative way here.
  - Gigachad 4y ago
    It's not even that shocking of a term. Pretty much every single gym these days uses facial recognition on their CCTV to prevent key sharing.
- Mountain_Skies 4y ago
  Certainly, doable and possibly detectable if one knew to look for it, but likely would work in 99% of cases. Does seem prone to breakage.
- Aeolun 4y ago
  That only really works if you can leave your office PC somewhere in their house?
  - piva00 4y ago
    Not necessarily, you create a VPN to go through the house first (leave a server for it there, configured for high uptime), VPN through there first and then tunnel the office/work VPN through that tunnel.
xdfgh1112 4y ago
My contract says "anywhere with a decent internet connection" for location.

sokoloff 4y ago

Even with these waves of RTO, surely there will be vastly more remote jobs in 2024 than there were 5 years prior.

NiloCK 4y ago
I think the point is that if remote roles have 10xed in this time, the number who consider themselves remote-only have 20xed.
- xdfgh1112 4y ago
  Exactly. I'd wager more than 20x - precovid remote work was very much a niche thing, now it's almost expected by a large percentage of devs.