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It's weird to discuss children as turning them into something profitable
by boringg 4y ago
It's weird to discuss children as turning them into something profitable
- joezydeco 4y agoWhen college costs six figures, you hope to break even. And that's a whole different ball of wax in America.
- geraldwhen 4y agoMost state universities cost nothing near this, especially if you discount room and board. You need to live somewhere and eat, so it’s not sensible to include those costs with the cost of college.
- Riseed 4y agoWhile students need somewhere to sleep and eat, the cost of doing so on campus are much higher than anywhere else (in my limited experience). For example, the cost of on-campus room and board my junior year was 4x the cost of my off-campus room and board the following year. Some schools don't allow for off-campus housing for some or all students, or still require commuters to purchase a meal plan. So perhaps while it's not sensible to include all room and board costs with the cost of college, it's definitely fair to include some or even most.
- geraldwhen 4y agoNon big city schools aren’t a 4x multiple or even 2x. And most schools aren’t in New England. And most schools don’t require dorming, especially for all 3/4 years. The average student loan debt for a graduating undergrad is 23k. If college costs were truly 100k that just wouldn’t be the case. Edit: median
- Riseed 4y agoObviously I didn't go to most schools. But none I attended were in a big city, and none were in New England, so it's not just a "big city" or "New England" problem. Regardless, I have never personally seen an example of on-campus room and board being <= off-campus room and board. > The [median] student loan debt for a graduating undergrad is 23k. If college costs were truly 100k that just wouldn’t be the case. I fail to see how that necessarily follows because: - many students and families save for college, so there's a cash downpayment - many students work to cover part of college costs - many families work to cover part of college costs But this seems an unproductive rabbit trail from the issue of letting kids get their sleep.
- jandrese 4y agoThat's the entire purpose of the school system. To make them into workers that can produce value for companies.
- ajmurmann 4y agoHaving an educated electorate is a goal as well, at least in some places in the world.
- dkqmduems 4y agoCan't have them read Marx in high school. Everything would collapse.
- dsfyu404ed 4y agoDoubtful. They read Orwell and Huxley and based on the state of the world those lessons don't appear to stick.
- myko 4y agoTrue, most folks don't even realize Orwell was a Democratic Socialist.