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Really cool project, just worth mentioning that in some western countries ordering this stuff could lead to serious consequences and troubles with law. I live i
by m1d4s_ 4y ago
Really cool project, just worth mentioning that in some western countries ordering this stuff could lead to serious consequences and troubles with law. I live in Germany and would be afraid to get some of it.
- nivenkos 4y agoDo they even ship outside the USA? Nevermind all the chemicals, just shipping the plant itself internationally for that kit might be impossible. It's a shame, the EU is so technologically backward and anti-science.
- rimliu 4y agoEU is what now?
- lantry 4y agodon't you remember that the covid vaccine was invented by Americans? oh, wait a minute...
- WoodenChair 4y agoActually yes, the technology for mRNA vaccines was largely invented in the United States starting in the 1980s. [0] It has since been refined by multiple international commercial teams. 0: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w
- lantry 4y agoyes, the US played a role, but so did germany, where biontech is based. That is why it's not accurate to say "the EU is so technologically backward and anti-science", just like you couldn't say the same about the US.
- moffkalast 4y agoDesigned by Turks, developed by Germans, produced by Americans. It's like the exact reverse of the usual way products are made haha.
- Slava_Propanei 4y ago[dead]
- wonderwonder 4y agoCoincidentally I remember watching a series of YouTube videos where the Odin people actually created their own COVID vaccine.
- atemerev 4y agoYes, they do ship outside the USA (I ordered their kits from Switzerland, they arrived in a few weeks).
- kevviiinn 4y agoWhich parts or chemicals are restricted or watched?
- fabian2k 4y agoAny genetic modifications would require an S1 laboratory in Germany, that is not something any private person could do. You would have to go to a university or company with an approved S1 laboratory to do such experiments.
- kevviiinn 4y agoMy assumption based on their statement was that something being sold is restricted. AFAIK you can do genetic modifications at home in the US
- fabian2k 4y agoThere are restrictions on the sale of dangerous chemicals, and in general the vendors that sell chemicals simply don't sell to private persons at all. I'm not sure where the exact legal boundaries are, and whether the typical stuff you need for genetic experiments falls under some restriction. In general the chemicals you need for that aren't that dangerous, so they might not be restricted by law, but you still will have trouble getting a reputable vendor to sell to you as a private person.
- kevviiinn 4y agoI'm very aware that there are restricted and watched/reported chemicals and equipment but the GP claimed that ordering this stuff will get you a visit from law enforcement which implies that they are aware of which things the site is selling that are restricted or watched. I asked specifically what are they selling that is restricted or watched
- niemandhier 4y agoYes but keep in mind that in Germany an s1 time share lab ( including equipment ) of 25m2 can be rented from 10€ per square meter. That is less than you pay rent. They really want people to do bio stuff. https://www.bio-security.de/s1-s2-labore-bueros-mieten/ https://www.bio-security.de/s1-s2-labore-bueros-mieten/