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What. You don't see the climate narrative? The consumerism narrative? It's a literal "off world colony" of degenerated human blobs all watched over by machines

What. You don't see the climate narrative? The consumerism narrative? It's a literal "off world colony" of degenerated human blobs all watched over by machines of loving grace, who've never seen a live plant let alone looked away from a screen before. It's the most obvious narrative ever. How did you miss it?

mc32 4y ago
Ironically Disney is one of the most successful companies promoting consumerism.
- smackeyacky 4y ago
  I don't think there is any irony in it. No matter what the underlying themes might have been, Disney nakedly used it to sell crap to people who didn't need it while making those people feel good that they too care about the environment. It's just straight up hypocrisy.
- Oxidation 4y ago
  Andor was pretty confusing in that way. Pretty on-the-nose anti-corporate messaging from Disney, of all organisations. If I had to nominate a current company to "be" Pre-Mor, it would probably be a toss-up between Amazon and Disney, but Disney has the edge for basically owning a Corporate Sector in Florida¹. One wonders if, after all these decades of "fight the evil system" media where it's always the plucky brave underdog individualists against the oppressive corporate/technocrat elite, but often underwritten and funded by those exact types, that they're actually deliberately flaring off those public feelings. ¹: Actually there's probably a gruesome mining multinational that's more similar but they keep their names carefully out of the public consciousness.
  - unsupp0rted 4y ago
    Disney was secure enough in their position that they let Andor through. Now with a 3 billion dollar hole to make up they may or may not continue that magnanimity.
  - mc32 4y ago
    "...that they're actually deliberately flaring off those public feelings." It doesn't seem necessary. The USSR didn't flare off public sentiment -the CCP doesn't. In the USSR, the leadership saw that the system was a dead-end and took it upon itself to winddown/transform even before the people were ready. There were "subcultures" but they were no threat to the system.
  - CatWChainsaw 4y ago
    See this comment from further down this post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34765426 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34765426

mc32 4y ago

Ironically Disney is one of the most successful companies promoting consumerism.

smackeyacky 4y ago
I don't think there is any irony in it. No matter what the underlying themes might have been, Disney nakedly used it to sell crap to people who didn't need it while making those people feel good that they too care about the environment. It's just straight up hypocrisy.
Oxidation 4y ago
Andor was pretty confusing in that way. Pretty on-the-nose anti-corporate messaging from Disney, of all organisations. If I had to nominate a current company to "be" Pre-Mor, it would probably be a toss-up between Amazon and Disney, but Disney has the edge for basically owning a Corporate Sector in Florida¹. One wonders if, after all these decades of "fight the evil system" media where it's always the plucky brave underdog individualists against the oppressive corporate/technocrat elite, but often underwritten and funded by those exact types, that they're actually deliberately flaring off those public feelings. ¹: Actually there's probably a gruesome mining multinational that's more similar but they keep their names carefully out of the public consciousness.
- unsupp0rted 4y ago
  Disney was secure enough in their position that they let Andor through. Now with a 3 billion dollar hole to make up they may or may not continue that magnanimity.
- mc32 4y ago
  "...that they're actually deliberately flaring off those public feelings." It doesn't seem necessary. The USSR didn't flare off public sentiment -the CCP doesn't. In the USSR, the leadership saw that the system was a dead-end and took it upon itself to winddown/transform even before the people were ready. There were "subcultures" but they were no threat to the system.
- CatWChainsaw 4y ago
  See this comment from further down this post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34765426 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34765426