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I’m not certain whether it’s an issue of training or an issue of lack of accountability. It certainly seems like a time of reckoning must come for all levels of

I’m not certain whether it’s an issue of training or an issue of lack of accountability. It certainly seems like a time of reckoning must come for all levels of law enforcement, where we get back to upholding the law rather than being above it. By now, almost everybody in the country seems to take issue with one or more areas of law enforcement and/or judiciary. Belief in justice seems to be at a very low point.

willmadden 4y ago
I think there’s a general lack of confidence in the integrity of elections, especially given what’s been revealed in the Twitter files and that “mules” documentary. I don’t see how anything can change without election integrity and ensuring the standing government cannot interfere in elections. That’s the only way any of the government overreach can be curtailed. Bureaucrats aren’t going to oversee themselves. They will always fight for larger budgets and more power. The deeper root level problem is how elections are financed. The politicians themselves are little more than actors at this point. No one is going to win a national level election without the support of the largest lobbying groups.
- philippejara 4y ago
  I don't think this is a problem of election integrity, the abuse is being done by un-elected people which while some are appointed most aren't. It is an accountability issue, call something a threat to national security and now everything's free game. The people doing those violations should at the very least be fired, but repeatedly doing them -or repeatedly overseeing them- should lead to jail, especially if it is targeted at political parties.
  - willmadden 4y ago
    I agree, but the lack of arrests despite hard evidence tells you all you need to know. Every government employee that communicated with social media companies in order to suppress political speech during elections (or at all) violated their Constitutional oath. They must be arrested and tried for treason. The NGOs that financed the mules that harvested ballots (except in CA where it is somehow “legal”) should be declared domestic terrorist organizations. The people who financed those NGOs need to do a perp walk. There are mountains of evidence about dominion voting systems. There’s another worthy target. That would be a good start towards restoring confidence.
- analognoise 4y ago
  I saw that documentary - I didn't find it convincing. To put it mildly.

willmadden 4y ago

I think there’s a general lack of confidence in the integrity of elections, especially given what’s been revealed in the Twitter files and that “mules” documentary. I don’t see how anything can change without election integrity and ensuring the standing government cannot interfere in elections. That’s the only way any of the government overreach can be curtailed. Bureaucrats aren’t going to oversee themselves. They will always fight for larger budgets and more power. The deeper root level problem is how elections are financed. The politicians themselves are little more than actors at this point. No one is going to win a national level election without the support of the largest lobbying groups.

philippejara 4y ago
I don't think this is a problem of election integrity, the abuse is being done by un-elected people which while some are appointed most aren't. It is an accountability issue, call something a threat to national security and now everything's free game. The people doing those violations should at the very least be fired, but repeatedly doing them -or repeatedly overseeing them- should lead to jail, especially if it is targeted at political parties.
- willmadden 4y ago
  I agree, but the lack of arrests despite hard evidence tells you all you need to know. Every government employee that communicated with social media companies in order to suppress political speech during elections (or at all) violated their Constitutional oath. They must be arrested and tried for treason. The NGOs that financed the mules that harvested ballots (except in CA where it is somehow “legal”) should be declared domestic terrorist organizations. The people who financed those NGOs need to do a perp walk. There are mountains of evidence about dominion voting systems. There’s another worthy target. That would be a good start towards restoring confidence.
analognoise 4y ago
I saw that documentary - I didn't find it convincing. To put it mildly.