Everyone is talking past each other here at different semantic levels. From the old hn convo, which I agree with. > Structured threads aren't that hard (e.g.

Everyone is talking past each other here at different semantic levels. From the old hn convo, which I agree with. > Structured threads aren't that hard (e.g. task-based systems, thread pools). > Unmaintanable raw-pthread messes are a nightmare sequel from the director of Endless GOTOs. I think @Amelius is over generalizing on parallelism while Ousterhout is talking specifically about fine grain locking as a specific form of implementing parallelism.