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Microsoft CEO Pretty Sure He Can Keep AI from Escaping Human Control

18 points by kungfudoi 4y ago

tough 4y ago
Oh he's pretty sure, then that's fine I guess
- idiocrat 4y ago
  Yes, they all said such things at the beginning. And then "Defense network computers. New... powerful... hooked into everything, trusted to run it all. They say it got smart, a new order of intelligence".
  - tough 4y ago
    I think the only sad part is we'll have many Faux coupes' d'etat attributed by AI but in reality just executed by it's handlers. AI will be the new scapegoat for everyone doing shady stuff, governments, corporations...
    - kbelder 4y ago
      Or governments, corporations, etc., will be the scapegoat for everything done by AIs.
      - tough 4y ago
        Touche
      - pdimitar 4y ago
        One can only hope. They need fire under their bums.
renewiltord 4y ago
The great disconnect between AI safety guys and AI accelerationists is that the former produce blog posts and the latter produce AI. Once again the doers beat the talkers. Shape rotators vs wordcels, if you'd like to use their lingo.
password11 4y ago
This interview was mostly a puff piece until this ominous quote: > "The first set of categories in which we should use these powerful models are where humans, unambiguously, unquestionably, are in charge," Nadella said. "And so as long as we sort of start there, characterize these models, make these models more safe and over time much more explainable, then we can think about other forms of usage." In other words, let's start with innocent chatbots until people get comfortable with them. Then we can start to do the menacing Big Tech stuff.
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- krono 4y ago
  So first Microsoft will embrace this new technology and facilitate its employment, then they will start extending any established standards and provide new ways to use them, and it's anyone's guess what they will be doing next after that!
- bmitc 4y ago
  The next 50 years are going to suck. I'm already at the point where the Internet is basically becoming nothing but inaccurate information. I really try and find first party data, but it's hard.
  - charlie0 4y ago
    Yeah, I've started to notice this in a lot of the internet, from articles to videos to podcasts. It feels like they are all selling me something I don't want, ideology, outrage, consumerism. It's getting harder to find information or entertainment that's not embued with any of these negative attributes.
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fatjokes 4y ago
At least Nadella is an engineer. I'd wager he has a better sense of this than ex-management-consultant Sundar Pichai.
zamalek 4y ago
At this point it's the human control that I'm concerned about.
root_axis 4y ago
At least "pretty sure" is an honest framing, but nobody working on AI is going to say "well sure, it'll inevitably kill us all, it's pretty much a law of nature"
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  Well excuse me, but us humans are doing a great job at killing ourselves without the help of an AI thank you very much.
boh 4y ago
We're about as close to AI "escaping human control" as we are hosting the Super Bowl on Mars. If there's one thing what we currently call "AI" has absolutely none of, it's actual intelligence. The rogue AI narrative helps companies pretend AI development is dramatically more advanced than it actually is.
- ambientenv 4y ago
  Agree on the intelligence part. What it does have now, and at an increasing scale, is influence. So even if there is not, in the strict definition, intelligence behind the words, do not underestimate it's impact, both positive and negative.
patrick451 4y ago
In author news, "Australian farmer "pretty sure" he can keep imported rabbit population under control."

18 points by kungfudoi 4y ago

tough 4y ago

Oh he's pretty sure, then that's fine I guess

idiocrat 4y ago
Yes, they all said such things at the beginning. And then "Defense network computers. New... powerful... hooked into everything, trusted to run it all. They say it got smart, a new order of intelligence".
- tough 4y ago
  I think the only sad part is we'll have many Faux coupes' d'etat attributed by AI but in reality just executed by it's handlers. AI will be the new scapegoat for everyone doing shady stuff, governments, corporations...
  - kbelder 4y ago
    Or governments, corporations, etc., will be the scapegoat for everything done by AIs.
    - tough 4y ago
      Touche
    - pdimitar 4y ago
      One can only hope. They need fire under their bums.

renewiltord 4y ago

The great disconnect between AI safety guys and AI accelerationists is that the former produce blog posts and the latter produce AI. Once again the doers beat the talkers. Shape rotators vs wordcels, if you'd like to use their lingo.

password11 4y ago

This interview was mostly a puff piece until this ominous quote: > "The first set of categories in which we should use these powerful models are where humans, unambiguously, unquestionably, are in charge," Nadella said. "And so as long as we sort of start there, characterize these models, make these models more safe and over time much more explainable, then we can think about other forms of usage." In other words, let's start with innocent chatbots until people get comfortable with them. Then we can start to do the menacing Big Tech stuff.

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krono 4y ago
So first Microsoft will embrace this new technology and facilitate its employment, then they will start extending any established standards and provide new ways to use them, and it's anyone's guess what they will be doing next after that!
bmitc 4y ago
The next 50 years are going to suck. I'm already at the point where the Internet is basically becoming nothing but inaccurate information. I really try and find first party data, but it's hard.
- charlie0 4y ago
  Yeah, I've started to notice this in a lot of the internet, from articles to videos to podcasts. It feels like they are all selling me something I don't want, ideology, outrage, consumerism. It's getting harder to find information or entertainment that's not embued with any of these negative attributes.

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fatjokes 4y ago

At least Nadella is an engineer. I'd wager he has a better sense of this than ex-management-consultant Sundar Pichai.

zamalek 4y ago

At this point it's the human control that I'm concerned about.

root_axis 4y ago

At least "pretty sure" is an honest framing, but nobody working on AI is going to say "well sure, it'll inevitably kill us all, it's pretty much a law of nature"

ChuckNorris89 4y ago
Well excuse me, but us humans are doing a great job at killing ourselves without the help of an AI thank you very much.

boh 4y ago

We're about as close to AI "escaping human control" as we are hosting the Super Bowl on Mars. If there's one thing what we currently call "AI" has absolutely none of, it's actual intelligence. The rogue AI narrative helps companies pretend AI development is dramatically more advanced than it actually is.

ambientenv 4y ago
Agree on the intelligence part. What it does have now, and at an increasing scale, is influence. So even if there is not, in the strict definition, intelligence behind the words, do not underestimate it's impact, both positive and negative.

patrick451 4y ago

In author news, "Australian farmer "pretty sure" he can keep imported rabbit population under control."