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> However, humans are generalized In terms of subject matters, ChatGPT is way more generalized than humans.

pavlov 4y ago
ChatGPT can only arrange symbols. It can’t wipe a floor or dissect an insect or drive a car or give a massage or make people listen and do what it wants. It can tell you often convincing stories about how to do those things, but it has no means to enact any of it nor any internal motivation to try.
- wyager 4y ago
  > ChatGPT can only arrange symbols. This is what like half the people in first world countries do all day. > It can’t wipe a floor... There is no reason to suspect this is a technical limitation of the models we can build now, rather than a consequence of the fact that no one has bothered trying due to limitations on mechatronics. > but it has no means to enact any of it nor any internal motivation to try Any claims to this end are both/either A) purely speculative and B) ontologically nonsensical. It's also not really relevant.
  - breuleux 4y ago
    > There is no reason to suspect this is a technical limitation of the models we can build now, rather than a consequence of the fact that no one has bothered trying due to limitations on mechatronics. I think the point still stands, if mechatronics turn out to be a more difficult problem than intelligence: we will need new models to overcome these limitations.
  - akira2501 4y ago
    > This is what like half the people in first world countries do all day. Not by choice. That is an artifice of our institutions. > Any claims to this end are both/either A) purely speculative and B) ontologically nonsensical. It's also not really relevant. It's speculative, and it's nonsense, and it's not relevant. This claim itself is ontologically nonsensical.
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- saberience 4y ago
  Well is there an ai that can dissect an insect or wipe a floor? Or do both without risking any accidents to nearby humans?
- 1024core 4y ago
  > It can’t wipe a floor or dissect an insect or drive a car or give a massage or make people listen and do what it wants. I have seen publications where a LLM like ChatGPT was mated with a robotic arm, and taught to give instructions to the arm to do whatever it wanted to do. I think this may be it: https://sites.research.google/palm-saycan https://sites.research.google/palm-saycan
- iinnPP 4y ago
  If you place an ICE on the floor it also doesn't do much. Plop Excel on a computer and see what it does on its own. Not seeing what ChatGPT can be tooled to do is simply a lack of imagination.
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    A tool like that, for humans to wield, doesn't sound to me like something that is "more generalized than humans".
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ChatGPT can only arrange symbols. It can’t wipe a floor or dissect an insect or drive a car or give a massage or make people listen and do what it wants. It can tell you often convincing stories about how to do those things, but it has no means to enact any of it nor any internal motivation to try.

wyager 4y ago
> ChatGPT can only arrange symbols. This is what like half the people in first world countries do all day. > It can’t wipe a floor... There is no reason to suspect this is a technical limitation of the models we can build now, rather than a consequence of the fact that no one has bothered trying due to limitations on mechatronics. > but it has no means to enact any of it nor any internal motivation to try Any claims to this end are both/either A) purely speculative and B) ontologically nonsensical. It's also not really relevant.
- breuleux 4y ago
  > There is no reason to suspect this is a technical limitation of the models we can build now, rather than a consequence of the fact that no one has bothered trying due to limitations on mechatronics. I think the point still stands, if mechatronics turn out to be a more difficult problem than intelligence: we will need new models to overcome these limitations.
- akira2501 4y ago
  > This is what like half the people in first world countries do all day. Not by choice. That is an artifice of our institutions. > Any claims to this end are both/either A) purely speculative and B) ontologically nonsensical. It's also not really relevant. It's speculative, and it's nonsense, and it's not relevant. This claim itself is ontologically nonsensical.
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saberience 4y ago
Well is there an ai that can dissect an insect or wipe a floor? Or do both without risking any accidents to nearby humans?
1024core 4y ago
> It can’t wipe a floor or dissect an insect or drive a car or give a massage or make people listen and do what it wants. I have seen publications where a LLM like ChatGPT was mated with a robotic arm, and taught to give instructions to the arm to do whatever it wanted to do. I think this may be it: https://sites.research.google/palm-saycan https://sites.research.google/palm-saycan
iinnPP 4y ago
If you place an ICE on the floor it also doesn't do much. Plop Excel on a computer and see what it does on its own. Not seeing what ChatGPT can be tooled to do is simply a lack of imagination.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  A tool like that, for humans to wield, doesn't sound to me like something that is "more generalized than humans".
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