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Maybe it's just me, but I really think people should focus more on just eating more naturally and walking instead of driving or taking the train. When I say na

Maybe it's just me, but I really think people should focus more on just eating more naturally and walking instead of driving or taking the train. When I say natural food, I mean that you should avoid things like: - Cow Milk and diary products. It's for cows, not for humans - Fruit Juices/Soda and other sources of unnatural sugar - Oil Stick with naturally human stuff like - Meat - Leaves and stuff made of leaves - Fruits (not fruit juice) - Nuts I think one should just think before eating : if I were a caveman, how easy would it be to make this thing? And if it would be pretty hard, then treat it like a luxury, and eat sparingly. For example, chocolate.

kingkongrevenge 18y ago
> Milk ... It's for cows, not for humans This is one of the stupider points I keep seeing. At least some human populations have been eating dairy products for over ten thousand years. That's a serious chunk of human evolution. Only certain people should avoid diary, but more commonly they'd be fine with fermented products and should just avoid straight milk. > Oil Again, thousands of years of healthy people eating lots of olive and coconut oil.
- speek 18y ago
  For most of my life I wasn't Lactose-intolerant... In the past year or so I've somehow managed to convince my body to start mutating the shape of those oh-so-wonderful lactase enzymes. Now, I don't _have_ to drink lactase-added milk, but it certainly helps those who are around me. I can still do cheese and yoghurt, but its only straight-up milk that irks my stomach. "Good" oils are very good for people. "Good" oils raise HDL levels in people. They lubricate blood vessels and do amazing things for your body. Generally, the only things you need to stay away from are hydrogenated things and things that don't occur in nature. +Fish oil -Partially Hydrogenated (insert plant name here) oil +fat (I never understood why people were so obsessed with fat-free stuff. Fat is good for you. It's satisfying, yet has a delayed glycemic index response.) +fiber +protein -simple carbohydrates +exercise = health
- icey 18y ago
  What are your dietary credentials? Every time there's a remotely food related post, you come in banging the "NO STARCH MOAR FATS" tambourine, and I'm curious where your data comes from.
  - speek 18y ago
    I don't have any tangible credentials (read: I'm not a doctor), but my data comes from being mildly obsessed about nutrition (heredity isn't on my side) and from reading as much as I possibly can about nutrition (American Society for Nutrition, the National Agricultural Library, etc). Plus, it helps that I'm an engineer, I tackle most problems by amassing as much data as I can before actually doing what I should be doing. Carbohydrates are important... they just shouldn't be overdone. Especially the refined ones. Milk = good, fruits = good, whole grain bread = decent, Wonderbread = crap.
    - icey 18y ago
      Errr, I'm sorry Speek, I wasn't pointing my comment at you (I realize how it could look that way due to the way comment parentage works here). Kingkongrevenge has some.... interesting viewpoints on diet, so I was asking him where he got his information; sorry for the confusion!
- markessien 18y ago
  Are those populations also traditionally buxom?

kingkongrevenge 18y ago

> Milk ... It's for cows, not for humans This is one of the stupider points I keep seeing. At least some human populations have been eating dairy products for over ten thousand years. That's a serious chunk of human evolution. Only certain people should avoid diary, but more commonly they'd be fine with fermented products and should just avoid straight milk. > Oil Again, thousands of years of healthy people eating lots of olive and coconut oil.

speek 18y ago
For most of my life I wasn't Lactose-intolerant... In the past year or so I've somehow managed to convince my body to start mutating the shape of those oh-so-wonderful lactase enzymes. Now, I don't _have_ to drink lactase-added milk, but it certainly helps those who are around me. I can still do cheese and yoghurt, but its only straight-up milk that irks my stomach. "Good" oils are very good for people. "Good" oils raise HDL levels in people. They lubricate blood vessels and do amazing things for your body. Generally, the only things you need to stay away from are hydrogenated things and things that don't occur in nature. +Fish oil -Partially Hydrogenated (insert plant name here) oil +fat (I never understood why people were so obsessed with fat-free stuff. Fat is good for you. It's satisfying, yet has a delayed glycemic index response.) +fiber +protein -simple carbohydrates +exercise = health
icey 18y ago
What are your dietary credentials? Every time there's a remotely food related post, you come in banging the "NO STARCH MOAR FATS" tambourine, and I'm curious where your data comes from.
- speek 18y ago
  I don't have any tangible credentials (read: I'm not a doctor), but my data comes from being mildly obsessed about nutrition (heredity isn't on my side) and from reading as much as I possibly can about nutrition (American Society for Nutrition, the National Agricultural Library, etc). Plus, it helps that I'm an engineer, I tackle most problems by amassing as much data as I can before actually doing what I should be doing. Carbohydrates are important... they just shouldn't be overdone. Especially the refined ones. Milk = good, fruits = good, whole grain bread = decent, Wonderbread = crap.
  - icey 18y ago
    Errr, I'm sorry Speek, I wasn't pointing my comment at you (I realize how it could look that way due to the way comment parentage works here). Kingkongrevenge has some.... interesting viewpoints on diet, so I was asking him where he got his information; sorry for the confusion!
markessien 18y ago
Are those populations also traditionally buxom?