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Let this be another lesson of relying on third party software completely.

duskwuff 4y ago
What exactly do you think the alternative is? If you want to accept payments online, you need to do so through a credit card processor. There is no "self-hosted" alternative.
- diazc 4y ago
  > What exactly do you think the alternative is? crypto? I was able to send the USDC stablecoin to a business accepting crypto with Coinbase Commerce just fine and transaction was very quick. I can see that even Stripe is getting involved in crypto as well.
  - jeremyjh 4y ago
    But what if they want customers to buy things?
    - diazc 4y ago
      They can buy things? Shopify, Woocommerce has integrations for this, this isn't really an issue.
      - dashbarkhuss 4y ago
        They are blocked by MATCH. They will be banned from all of those as well.
        diazc 4y ago
        What has MATCH got to do with crypto? Do you have any evidence for this claim?
  - reaperducer 4y ago
    So your solution for not using a third-party is to use a different third party?
    - diazc 4y ago
      What is wrong with accepting USDC? Anyone can accept it, individuals, and even third parties.
    - charlieyu1 4y ago
      People blame crypto for many things but at least crypto is not monopolized and you don't need the approval of a third party to use crypto to pay.
  - pfsalter 4y ago
    Good luck trying to turn that USDC back into dollars without significant tax implications, and definitely good luck trying to get your customers to use USDC instead of a credit card
    - diazc 4y ago
      > ...good luck trying to get your customers to use USDC instead of a credit card It's already happening and Stripe, Coinbase, Stellar, Shopify, Woocommerce, and Moneygram are already using USDC in the real world.
- livinglist 4y ago
  No my point is not to rely on a single third party completely
  - dan1234 4y ago
    If they’ve been add to MATCH (card provider blocklist) they won’t be getting service from any other third parties now.
ketralnis 4y ago
These smarmy toldyouso comments always appear on these kinds of issues but the "third party software" here is... the global financial system. Stripe booted them because the credit card networks booted them because the US legal system booted them for dealing in illegal transactions. There isn't really an alternative to the root cause here. (Unless you're a bitcoin zealot in which case spare me.)
packetslave 4y ago
Developer of Hacki - a Hacker News client: https://github.com/Livinglist/Hacki https://github.com/Livinglist/Hacki This you?
- olliepop 4y ago
  Unfortunately they are relying on the iOS app store to distribute their app, so safe to say they won't be around much longer due to third-party services etc etc.
  - livinglist 4y ago
    If user don’t want to access the iOS App Store they can build the app themselves, I don’t really see what’s your counter argument here. The point I’m making is do not rely on any third party service completely
- livinglist 4y ago
  Yes
brookst 4y ago
Says the guy who didn’t write his own operating system.

What exactly do you think the alternative is? If you want to accept payments online, you need to do so through a credit card processor. There is no "self-hosted" alternative.

diazc 4y ago
> What exactly do you think the alternative is? crypto? I was able to send the USDC stablecoin to a business accepting crypto with Coinbase Commerce just fine and transaction was very quick. I can see that even Stripe is getting involved in crypto as well.
- jeremyjh 4y ago
  But what if they want customers to buy things?
  - diazc 4y ago
    They can buy things? Shopify, Woocommerce has integrations for this, this isn't really an issue.
    - dashbarkhuss 4y ago
      They are blocked by MATCH. They will be banned from all of those as well.
      - diazc 4y ago
        What has MATCH got to do with crypto? Do you have any evidence for this claim?
- reaperducer 4y ago
  So your solution for not using a third-party is to use a different third party?
  - diazc 4y ago
    What is wrong with accepting USDC? Anyone can accept it, individuals, and even third parties.
  - charlieyu1 4y ago
    People blame crypto for many things but at least crypto is not monopolized and you don't need the approval of a third party to use crypto to pay.
- pfsalter 4y ago
  Good luck trying to turn that USDC back into dollars without significant tax implications, and definitely good luck trying to get your customers to use USDC instead of a credit card
  - diazc 4y ago
    > ...good luck trying to get your customers to use USDC instead of a credit card It's already happening and Stripe, Coinbase, Stellar, Shopify, Woocommerce, and Moneygram are already using USDC in the real world.
livinglist 4y ago
No my point is not to rely on a single third party completely
- dan1234 4y ago
  If they’ve been add to MATCH (card provider blocklist) they won’t be getting service from any other third parties now.

ketralnis 4y ago

These smarmy toldyouso comments always appear on these kinds of issues but the "third party software" here is... the global financial system. Stripe booted them because the credit card networks booted them because the US legal system booted them for dealing in illegal transactions. There isn't really an alternative to the root cause here. (Unless you're a bitcoin zealot in which case spare me.)

packetslave 4y ago

Developer of Hacki - a Hacker News client: https://github.com/Livinglist/Hacki https://github.com/Livinglist/Hacki This you?

olliepop 4y ago
Unfortunately they are relying on the iOS app store to distribute their app, so safe to say they won't be around much longer due to third-party services etc etc.
- livinglist 4y ago
  If user don’t want to access the iOS App Store they can build the app themselves, I don’t really see what’s your counter argument here. The point I’m making is do not rely on any third party service completely
livinglist 4y ago
Yes

brookst 4y ago

Says the guy who didn’t write his own operating system.