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Mind blown that: -Some ~40% (stupid pie chart) don't have an SSL cert, but almost all have login/registration page (4 out of 4 that I randomly picked had a log
by latch 15y ago
Mind blown that:
-Some ~40% (stupid pie chart) don't have an SSL cert, but almost all have login/registration page (4 out of 4 that I randomly picked had a login/registration page)
-So many people use GoDaddy as a registrar (they were horrible before SOPA)
-That startups use AWS despite its poor cost/performance
- mattmanser 15y agoI agree on the SSL & GoDaddy, but AWS? What poor performance?
- dextorious 15y agoHe said poor cost/performance. I.e, he means it has less bang for the buck, compared to something like a VPS on Slicehost. Which is true (there are several benchmarks in related price ranges), but AWS offers other things, including a vibrant ecosystem and huge scalability opportunities in different zones etc. A lot of startups can justify the cost, especially as an engineer can cost twenty times more than a couple of machines to start with.
- rplnt 15y agoI think he didn't mean "cost and performance" but rather "cost per performance".
- wlll 15y agoThe IO performance of EBS is terrible.
- xxqs 15y agowhat's horrible about GoDaddy? I used them for domain registration and DNS hosting, and everything went smoothly. The only annoying part, is how they try to sell additional goodies along the domain registration. the front page ladies weren't too much of disturbance either :)
- switz 15y agoSeriously? Aside from all of the normal things that are wrong with GoDaddy, where have you been for the past few weeks?
- xxqs 15y agothe parent comment refers to them being horrible before SOPA. I was wondering what exactly was horrible. It was all plain and easy for me.
- whyleyc 15y agoI think he's referring to their recent support for SOPA: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3383564 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3383564
- xxqs 15y agothe parent comment refers to them being horrible before SOPA
- whyleyc 15y agoOk, maybe it's more to do with stuff like their CEO gunning down elephant's - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/31/bob-parsons-godaddy-ceo-elephant-hunt_n_843121.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/31/bob-parsons-godaddy...
- xxqs 15y agothat's quite bad for the company reputation, but I still don't see any argumentation for they were horrible before SOPA
- tnorthcutt 15y agoThey were. I've dealt with them on one occasion (had one client insist on using them as a host/registrar), and they are technically incompetent. We've had numerous outages with this client's site, and had one problem that their technical support staff were simply unable to solve after numerous phone calls (they ended up blaming it on the site, which was running on WordPress - hardly an oddity). It ended up being a very simple problem/solution, which I discovered after spending an hour or so researching it.
- kolkey 15y agoInterested to hear about AWS cost/performance too!
- latch 15y agoThere's been a lot of comparison of AWS's cost per performance compared to more bare-metal cloud solutions or dedicated servers. It's been covered a lot of times...here's one that just appeared on HN a few days ago: http://blog.carlmercier.com/2012/01/05/ec2-is-basically-one-big-ripoff/ http://blog.carlmercier.com/2012/01/05/ec2-is-basically-one-... You can easily get 10x the performance for the same cost. I'm not saying AWS isn't awesome...I'm saying it's much, much more expensive, and I'm surprised that startups full of tech people don't manage their own servers.
- trevorstrohman 15y agoYou can rent 20 AWS on-demand large instances for less money than a junior engineer. If you don't need a lot of machines and AWS saves you any time at all over dedicated hosting, then it's worth it.
- swah 15y agoOk, how do you manage your servers?
- latch 15y agoI'm just very surprised that more startups don't have people who both enjoy the experience and are good at it. Also, people make it sound like EC2 is management-free. It isn't. It might take less time, which is important, and the problems might be different, but it isn't a fire-and-forget solution.
- swah 15y agoI enjoy it, I just don't see how you could do that and get even close to the price of a VPS. In other words: colocation is expensive for a startup.
- andrewjshults 15y agoNot sure about now, but for the summer 2010 batch, Amazon handed out a good chunk of AWS credits (enough to cover the hosting costs of most early stage startups for a while).
- zizee 15y agoIt's worth noting that the people hosting on Heroku have been lumped into the AWS stats. Which is even more expensive performance wise, but has added benefits over self maintained servers.
- nicholasjbs 15y agoI can address two of those points (one for my company and another for YC companies in general): - SSL: We're on that list as HireHive.com, which had a login and used to have an SSL cert, however, we shut it down (i.e., it just redirects now) and now run Hackruiter.com and HackerSchool.com, where our cert is now. We never had logins online without a proper cert. The data from OP is wrong. - So many YC companies use Amazon because Amazon gives large cash credits to YC companies meaning it's effectively free to use for the first couple years. Also, many of us are built on services built on AWS (e.g., we use Dotcloud). EDIT: Typo.
- vidar 15y agoI'd say thats money well spent by Amazon to get all the up and coming companies onto their cloud.
- beambot 15y agoAside from being admitted to YC, is there a formal process to request AWS credits for budding startups...?
- nicholasjbs 15y agoI have no idea, sorry. If you know anyone who works there, I'd try that route. Otherwise, you could try asking for a deal here: http://aws.amazon.com/contact-us/aws-sales/ http://aws.amazon.com/contact-us/aws-sales/
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