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I know of no significant scientific evidence showing that waiting for transition in adulthood in a supportive household causes any harm. Transitioning at 18 or

I know of no significant scientific evidence showing that waiting for transition in adulthood in a supportive household causes any harm. Transitioning at 18 or 21 should be ok afaik. If your child identifies so strongly with the idea of transitioning, they could at least do 2/3 years of dressing up as the other gender, changing their pronouns and name and see how they feel. I’ve been trans identifying a lot of my life but decided in my adult life to move onto life as a drag performer and non binary. Im not sure what would’ve happened to me had to gotten the hormones but I’m happy it wasn’t an option. You can easily make problems in your life be problems of “oh well those would be solved if I was a woman”. They wouldn’t. The issues I had came from issues I had with myself and they healed over time with therapy. I got support from therapists alongside with the advice of “wait and see how you feel”. Turns out they mostly realised that I was placing problems into me being a man that were problems that I had in my own psyche. That was my conclusion. What you feel as a kid / teenager shouldn’t really be taken as gospel IMO. A lot of life changes ahead of you.

MissTake 4y ago
Absolute bull crap. As a trans woman I can tell you that waiting until post adolescence caused MAJOR harm - my body will never recover from the changes I got as a result. You need to stop thinking you’re situation is the same as everyone. I’m happy you didn’t feel the need to transition. You’re therefore not transgender therefore you do not have the right to speak for those of us that are.
- s1artibartfast 4y ago
  >I’m happy you didn’t feel the need to transition. You’re therefore not transgender therefore you do not have the right to speak for those of us that are. I think it's pretty clear from their post They're speaking from the perspective of a formerly trans person
- kranke155 4y ago
  I don’t speak for anyone else. Did your family support you in your journey? Genuinely curious as I feel like that makes a big difference.
a_shovel 4y ago
> I know of no significant scientific evidence showing that waiting for transition in adulthood in a supportive household causes any harm. There is one obvious harm: puberty. If your kid is transitioning male-to-female, then if she doesn't get treatment, she will grow facial and body hair and have her voice deepen. If they are female-to-male, they will grow breasts. (This is not an exhaustive list.) Some trans people are fine with being obviously non-gender-conforming, but a lot of them aren't. I don't have a price chart in front of me, but I'm pretty sure that electrolysis and breast reductions are more expensive than a few years of hormones, and while voice training can help with their voice, there's only so much it can do.
- kranke155 4y ago
  This is true and I don’t have the answers. I think everyone should do their own journey. I wonder if there is evidence one way or another but I haven’t seen it.
  - shrimp_emoji 4y ago
    The problem with this advice is it's tantamount to having a potion that kills some people and only gives others a bad tummy ache. You say, "Drink it and find out," and qualifying it with, "it's not so bad if you have family and friends to support you while your tummy aches." There's not much evidence for anything about trans people since it's a very new phenomenon in the social consciousness, but you can be ruining someone's life by appealing to that scientific ignorance + your anecdata mixed in. Just trust the latest collective consensus of psychologists and doctors, and encourage others to do the same. They're paid to know about this stuff and to onboard the enormous risk you are with your prescriptions in this thread.
    - s1artibartfast 4y ago
      >Just trust the latest collective consensus of psychologists and doctors, and encourage others to do the same. They're paid to know about this stuff and to onboard the enormous risk you are with your prescriptions in this thread. That's interesting, I have the complete opposite position. Doctors and psychologists can give a informed guess at best. What you hear will vary wildly by the person you select. I don't think it is practical to put the risk or responsibility on them. Ultimately it comes down to the patients and their parents who have to decide what they think is right and live with the consequences, good or bad.

MissTake 4y ago

Absolute bull crap. As a trans woman I can tell you that waiting until post adolescence caused MAJOR harm - my body will never recover from the changes I got as a result. You need to stop thinking you’re situation is the same as everyone. I’m happy you didn’t feel the need to transition. You’re therefore not transgender therefore you do not have the right to speak for those of us that are.

s1artibartfast 4y ago
>I’m happy you didn’t feel the need to transition. You’re therefore not transgender therefore you do not have the right to speak for those of us that are. I think it's pretty clear from their post They're speaking from the perspective of a formerly trans person
kranke155 4y ago
I don’t speak for anyone else. Did your family support you in your journey? Genuinely curious as I feel like that makes a big difference.

a_shovel 4y ago

> I know of no significant scientific evidence showing that waiting for transition in adulthood in a supportive household causes any harm. There is one obvious harm: puberty. If your kid is transitioning male-to-female, then if she doesn't get treatment, she will grow facial and body hair and have her voice deepen. If they are female-to-male, they will grow breasts. (This is not an exhaustive list.) Some trans people are fine with being obviously non-gender-conforming, but a lot of them aren't. I don't have a price chart in front of me, but I'm pretty sure that electrolysis and breast reductions are more expensive than a few years of hormones, and while voice training can help with their voice, there's only so much it can do.

kranke155 4y ago
This is true and I don’t have the answers. I think everyone should do their own journey. I wonder if there is evidence one way or another but I haven’t seen it.
- shrimp_emoji 4y ago
  The problem with this advice is it's tantamount to having a potion that kills some people and only gives others a bad tummy ache. You say, "Drink it and find out," and qualifying it with, "it's not so bad if you have family and friends to support you while your tummy aches." There's not much evidence for anything about trans people since it's a very new phenomenon in the social consciousness, but you can be ruining someone's life by appealing to that scientific ignorance + your anecdata mixed in. Just trust the latest collective consensus of psychologists and doctors, and encourage others to do the same. They're paid to know about this stuff and to onboard the enormous risk you are with your prescriptions in this thread.
  - s1artibartfast 4y ago
    >Just trust the latest collective consensus of psychologists and doctors, and encourage others to do the same. They're paid to know about this stuff and to onboard the enormous risk you are with your prescriptions in this thread. That's interesting, I have the complete opposite position. Doctors and psychologists can give a informed guess at best. What you hear will vary wildly by the person you select. I don't think it is practical to put the risk or responsibility on them. Ultimately it comes down to the patients and their parents who have to decide what they think is right and live with the consequences, good or bad.