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Do they? I dont think every outlet in Europe can do the 20a to 30a at 240v that you'd expect for a car charger - just like most outlets here are rated for 15a
by Aloha 4y ago
Do they?
I dont think every outlet in Europe can do the 20a to 30a at 240v that you'd expect for a car charger - just like most outlets here are rated for 15a at 120, most outlets in the UK are rated for 13a at 240 (and thats on a ring circuit fused for 40a, which may be shared with many other outlets) - its a difference of about 1320w (in Germany 10a outlets are common, which means even less, a mere 600w difference) in actual power delivery. Whereas a dedicated home charging ciruit in states will be 4800-7200w.
while yes, there is a difference, you dont know how many other devices that power line will pass, and it wont do in common space living situations where often exterior outlets are.. A) Shared and B) on the buildings meter, rather than the individuals.
- seanmcdirmid 4y agoIt often isn't as good as an L2 charger, but it is usually better than an American L1 charger. Incidentally, I already see this effect in using an electric water kettle: in the USA they are really slow, but in Europe and Asia, they are much faster (because 230-240V).
- Aloha 4y agoL1.25 perhaps ;-) Point taken, and conceded in my original comment - the larger issues are, to suddenly add a bunch of high amperage loads at everyones parking space requires additional infrastructure - infrastructure we probably dont already have.
- seanmcdirmid 4y agoI've never seen power outlets in shared parking in Europe, so I didn't really consider that case. I guess I'm just considering Europeans in SFHs, where they really don't need to worry about adding L2 wiring for most use cases.
- Symbiote 4y agoOn-street and public-car-park chargers are very common. Scroll around https://chargefinder.com/ https://chargefinder.com/ I don't know about private parking, e.g. a car park reserved for residents of adjacent apartments. My building has two chargers, but it's not something I look out for elsewhere.
- bombcar 4y agoA random search brought up a SMEG KLFO3 retro kettle at 3000w for the UK, the US get a Hamilton Beach 40869 - 1500 watts, so almost exactly half. If you really want to it is possible to wire 220/240 to an appropriate outlet in the US and have a 240v kettle, but some will be industrial - https://www.webstaurantstore.com/13957/commercial-coffee-makers-brewers-automatic.html?filter=style:single&filter=voltage:220-volts https://www.webstaurantstore.com/13957/commercial-coffee-mak...
- seanmcdirmid 4y agoYa, my next kitchen renovation is going to have a 220/240 outlet just to use a faster water kettle (well, an induction cooktop should already be able to boil water quickly, but just in case a separate appliance still makes sense).
- Symbiote 4y agoIt's a convenient backup, and can easily be sufficient for normal use. My friend can drive to another friend's house in the British countryside and plug an almost-empty Tesla into the ordinary socket in the garage. After a weekend hiking etc, with little use of the car, it is full or close enough. That's something he can rely on in the UK/Ireland (13A@240V=3120W), something he couldn't rely on in North America (15A@120V=1800W), and the rest of Europe is somewhere in-between. (Does a typical German house have higher-rated sockets in the garage?)
- Sebb767 4y ago> Does a typical German house have higher-rated sockets in the garage? At least where I'm from, it's not super unusual to have a 400V socket with 16A or higher in private garages (either for tools or people preparing for an EV at some point), but you can't count on it.