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Just wait till Microsoft starts charging a license for vs code and developers heads implode.

6bb32646d83d 4y ago
It would be a huge bait and switch, but honestly I would most likely end up paying for it. I spend over 4 hours a day in VSCode, and it's better than everything else I've used
- Hackbraten 4y ago
  I know, right? It even made me take up writing extensions as a hobby. Mostly linters and syntax highlighters for really exotic file formats.
negative10xer 4y ago
at that point I'd just use vim in a terminal
skee8383 4y ago
i'll just go back to notepad++. although i must say it's been in decline for the past year or so. they removed a theme i liked to use and i don't care for the UI changes at all. But it is still functional, at least until the next downgrade from the developer. Eclipse is also still a great IDE with tons of plugins.
- seti0Cha 4y ago
  The LSP stuff has actually unlocked a lot of fringe editor choices. Even new editors with tiny communities can provide a lot of IDE like features by just implementing the client side of the API.
peoplearepeople 4y ago
vscode would be dropped like a stone
- bhouston 4y ago
  Not until there is a viable alternative. But with the integration of Github Co-Pilot, they can now make subscription fees from all of those users of VSCode.
  - bogwog 4y ago
    There’s already a de-Microsofted fork called VSCodium. Most people would probably migrate there, and development will proceed independently.
  - bhaney 4y ago
    Viable alternatives to VSCode have been around since the 90s
    - raydev 4y ago
      The explosive success of VSCode reveals that this is not true.
      - nocman 4y ago
        The popularity of a single development tool in a particular category does not make all other tools in the same (or a similar) category non-viable.
  - zer0tonin 4y ago
    I've never used VsCode, so I'm pretty sure viable alternatives are around
  - albrewer 4y ago
    Sublime Text was my go-to for a long time, and still is when I'm not working on a formal project.
  - ecshafer 4y ago
    I don't understand why anyone would use VSCode, now. Between Intellij, Vim, Emacs, Sublime Text there are at least 4 better Editors / IDE for any given language.
Apreche 4y ago
Nah, I'd just stop using it and go to something else.
- msm_ 4y ago
  Isn't vscode open-source? I'm using vscodium with all MS links removed, I don't think MS can charge licenses for that.
  - Apreche 4y ago
    The really good features that make VSCode worth using (remote development) are not open source.
- proc0 4y ago
  I still use sublimeText which was gaining some traction before VScode took over.
science4sail 4y ago
Fortunately I never left emacs.
- LarryMullins 4y ago
  Emacs is forever.
adverbly 4y ago
Hold on that could actually happen? It's not officially open source or anything?
- nickpeterson 4y ago
  Pretty easy, just release new features as paid plugins that need subscriptions and make minimal updates to the core program.
  - bombcar 4y ago
    Just make it part of Microsoft365 and don’t really bother updating the original. Done.
- seti0Cha 4y ago
  The code is opensource, but not the ecosystem. Microsoft is maneuvering towards the same position as Android with respect to Google Play. Not technically mandatory, but so many conveniences are built on it that it may as well be for anyone not interested in investing a lot of time finding workarounds.
- ThaDood 4y ago
  I think it is, but there is also a fork call VSCodium without the telemetry, I guess people could just pivot to that? https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium
- horsawlarway 4y ago
  No - it won't happen. The core editor is open source. At best, MS has some limitations around running some plugins (that they also develop) that require the licensed version of VSCode, rather than the OSS build. Most of those plugins either use MS servers (ex: Live Share) or use toolchains that MS is historically more closed with (their C++ toolchains). Generally speaking - you can use OSS Code today, without any issues. There's a flatpak here https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.visualstudio.code-oss https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.visualstudio.code-oss and many distros package it as the default... I run arch and it's in the repos as simply "code" - https://archlinux.org/packages/?name=code https://archlinux.org/packages/?name=code I run this as my default everywhere, and it works a-ok. There is a small subset of devs that would likely feel some pain losing the closed extensions, but the total impact feels overblown to me.
zeroonetwothree 4y ago
vim is goat anyway

It would be a huge bait and switch, but honestly I would most likely end up paying for it. I spend over 4 hours a day in VSCode, and it's better than everything else I've used

Hackbraten 4y ago
I know, right? It even made me take up writing extensions as a hobby. Mostly linters and syntax highlighters for really exotic file formats.

negative10xer 4y ago

at that point I'd just use vim in a terminal

skee8383 4y ago

i'll just go back to notepad++. although i must say it's been in decline for the past year or so. they removed a theme i liked to use and i don't care for the UI changes at all. But it is still functional, at least until the next downgrade from the developer. Eclipse is also still a great IDE with tons of plugins.

seti0Cha 4y ago
The LSP stuff has actually unlocked a lot of fringe editor choices. Even new editors with tiny communities can provide a lot of IDE like features by just implementing the client side of the API.

peoplearepeople 4y ago

vscode would be dropped like a stone

bhouston 4y ago
Not until there is a viable alternative. But with the integration of Github Co-Pilot, they can now make subscription fees from all of those users of VSCode.
- bogwog 4y ago
  There’s already a de-Microsofted fork called VSCodium. Most people would probably migrate there, and development will proceed independently.
- bhaney 4y ago
  Viable alternatives to VSCode have been around since the 90s
  - raydev 4y ago
    The explosive success of VSCode reveals that this is not true.
    - nocman 4y ago
      The popularity of a single development tool in a particular category does not make all other tools in the same (or a similar) category non-viable.
- zer0tonin 4y ago
  I've never used VsCode, so I'm pretty sure viable alternatives are around
- albrewer 4y ago
  Sublime Text was my go-to for a long time, and still is when I'm not working on a formal project.
- ecshafer 4y ago
  I don't understand why anyone would use VSCode, now. Between Intellij, Vim, Emacs, Sublime Text there are at least 4 better Editors / IDE for any given language.

Apreche 4y ago

Nah, I'd just stop using it and go to something else.

msm_ 4y ago
Isn't vscode open-source? I'm using vscodium with all MS links removed, I don't think MS can charge licenses for that.
- Apreche 4y ago
  The really good features that make VSCode worth using (remote development) are not open source.
proc0 4y ago
I still use sublimeText which was gaining some traction before VScode took over.

science4sail 4y ago

Fortunately I never left emacs.

LarryMullins 4y ago
Emacs is forever.

adverbly 4y ago

Hold on that could actually happen? It's not officially open source or anything?

nickpeterson 4y ago
Pretty easy, just release new features as paid plugins that need subscriptions and make minimal updates to the core program.
- bombcar 4y ago
  Just make it part of Microsoft365 and don’t really bother updating the original. Done.
seti0Cha 4y ago
The code is opensource, but not the ecosystem. Microsoft is maneuvering towards the same position as Android with respect to Google Play. Not technically mandatory, but so many conveniences are built on it that it may as well be for anyone not interested in investing a lot of time finding workarounds.
ThaDood 4y ago
I think it is, but there is also a fork call VSCodium without the telemetry, I guess people could just pivot to that? https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium
horsawlarway 4y ago
No - it won't happen. The core editor is open source. At best, MS has some limitations around running some plugins (that they also develop) that require the licensed version of VSCode, rather than the OSS build. Most of those plugins either use MS servers (ex: Live Share) or use toolchains that MS is historically more closed with (their C++ toolchains). Generally speaking - you can use OSS Code today, without any issues. There's a flatpak here https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.visualstudio.code-oss https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.visualstudio.code-oss and many distros package it as the default... I run arch and it's in the repos as simply "code" - https://archlinux.org/packages/?name=code https://archlinux.org/packages/?name=code I run this as my default everywhere, and it works a-ok. There is a small subset of devs that would likely feel some pain losing the closed extensions, but the total impact feels overblown to me.

zeroonetwothree 4y ago

vim is goat anyway