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Or Apple, who shares more user data with the CCP than most American tech companies: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-censorship-data.ht

Or Apple, who shares more user data with the CCP than most American tech companies: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-censorship-data.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-ce... All FAANG are suspect these days

filoleg 4y ago
> Apple, who shares more user data with the CCP than most American tech companies Whether intentionally or not, your comment is very misleading due to omitting the fact that it only applies to chinese customers of Apple in China (which the linked article mentions in the very beginning). Apple doesn't share user data of people outside of China with the CCP. Also, this is literally a legal requirement to be able to operate there, it isn't like Apple just decided to do it on their own. And Apple's actions regarding this weren't really a secret either. Disclaimer: not an Apple employee and have no connection to them outside of being a customer.
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- steponlego 4y ago
  We have no idea what Apple and Google share unofficially. Remember the Apple China bribery scandal? No? Of course not, it was barely a blip in the news.
  - filoleg 4y ago
    > We have no idea what Apple and Google share unofficially There is a phrase that describes "we have no evidence of them doing this, but they might be doing it, because there is no proof of them not doing it" pretty succinctly - baseless speculation. > Remember the Apple China bribery scandal? No? Of course not, it was barely a blip in the news. Are you referencing a Foxconn employee getting hit with allegations of bribing some of the Foxconn suppliers back in 2013[0]? If yes, then I remember it. However, I don't see how one can in full seriousness refer to it as "Apple bribery scandal", given that Apple wasn't aware of it happening, and none of the people involved were Apple employees. 0. https://qz.com/42409/why-apple-is-probably-in-the-clear-over-foxconns-bribery-scandal https://qz.com/42409/why-apple-is-probably-in-the-clear-over...
    - steponlego 4y ago
      Nope I'm talking about Tim Apple's $275 billion deal.
- minsc_and_boo 4y ago
  Nothing I said is intentionally misleading, it's right there in the source I linked. Apple Chinese users are still Apple users. Google employees rejected that same requirement to operate in China, showing that Google cares more about user privacy than Apple does. Apple has shown they care more about profits than privacy, which is the point.

filoleg 4y ago

> Apple, who shares more user data with the CCP than most American tech companies Whether intentionally or not, your comment is very misleading due to omitting the fact that it only applies to chinese customers of Apple in China (which the linked article mentions in the very beginning). Apple doesn't share user data of people outside of China with the CCP. Also, this is literally a legal requirement to be able to operate there, it isn't like Apple just decided to do it on their own. And Apple's actions regarding this weren't really a secret either. Disclaimer: not an Apple employee and have no connection to them outside of being a customer.

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steponlego 4y ago
We have no idea what Apple and Google share unofficially. Remember the Apple China bribery scandal? No? Of course not, it was barely a blip in the news.
- filoleg 4y ago
  > We have no idea what Apple and Google share unofficially There is a phrase that describes "we have no evidence of them doing this, but they might be doing it, because there is no proof of them not doing it" pretty succinctly - baseless speculation. > Remember the Apple China bribery scandal? No? Of course not, it was barely a blip in the news. Are you referencing a Foxconn employee getting hit with allegations of bribing some of the Foxconn suppliers back in 2013[0]? If yes, then I remember it. However, I don't see how one can in full seriousness refer to it as "Apple bribery scandal", given that Apple wasn't aware of it happening, and none of the people involved were Apple employees. 0. https://qz.com/42409/why-apple-is-probably-in-the-clear-over-foxconns-bribery-scandal https://qz.com/42409/why-apple-is-probably-in-the-clear-over...
  - steponlego 4y ago
    Nope I'm talking about Tim Apple's $275 billion deal.
minsc_and_boo 4y ago
Nothing I said is intentionally misleading, it's right there in the source I linked. Apple Chinese users are still Apple users. Google employees rejected that same requirement to operate in China, showing that Google cares more about user privacy than Apple does. Apple has shown they care more about profits than privacy, which is the point.