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The damage is still being done. I am a non-producing farmer in EEU. I know for a fact many local farmers still use Roundup on crops, even though its illegal. Th
by dreen 4y ago
The damage is still being done. I am a non-producing farmer in EEU. I know for a fact many local farmers still use Roundup on crops, even though its illegal. There are no checks done when they sell the grain. All the bees in the area have already died.
- pkphilip 4y agoWhy is this comment being downvoted?
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- hammock 4y ago>I quit a good job in the agriculture business once I found out the idiot "daddys money got squandered" business owner got his new injection in cash in a backroom deal w/ Monsanto. Curious about this. Did Monsanto give the farmer an advance or something, in return for agreeing to use/switch to their seed?
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- user3939382 4y ago> pernicious and devious sockpuppetry cough persona management disinfo campaigns Yeah I've gotten super weird responses when I discuss them on forums where randos are like verbatim repeating their PR talking points, and with a bizarre level of passion. Of course I don't have the information to prove/disprove these things and, insofar as I also see it on HN, these accusations are against the rules, so I don't say anything but it's highly suspicious to say the least.
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- rstuart4133 4y agoBecause it is almost certainly confusing Glyphosate, a herbicide, whose only demonstrated effect in animals is to cause cancer in cancer prone rats when administered in large doses, to Neonicotinoids which are a pesticide targeting insects that has had a devastating effect on bees. Most countries ban Neonicotinoids nowadays. https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/nicotinebased-pesticides-kill-bees-4693 https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/nicotinebased-pesticides...
- saiya-jin 4y agoWhy don't you report this anonymously to authorities AND media, since we know this leads to horrible deaths? Its low-energy effort, heck few envelopes to medias around the Europe and I guarantee you they would be on it like wasps on sweet food. You shouldn't be protecting people killing (also) children due to their greed or ignorance. You can save many lives and actually trigger the (necessary) change in legislation!
- moffkalast 4y ago> authorities AND media OP mentioned being in the EEU, which would mean the media and authorities of one of the following: Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia. Yeah I doubt it'd make any difference whatsoever. Best case scenario they ignore the story and he doesn't end up falling from a third story window.
- dylan604 4y agoBut if the news makes into other EU countries, wouldn't the EU then be able to use it's "powers" to prevent the sale of that grain into the rest of the EU?
- scarby2 4y agothis has nothing to do with the EU. EEU and EU are unrelated. the EU could blacklist grain imports from the EEU.
- dylan604 4y ago" to medias around the Europe" what else am I supposed to infer from that than the EU regulating over countries "around the Europe"? another poster stated they specifically by grains from Europe under the notion that EU regulations were protecting them from this type of stuff. so, how is this hard to figure out how these are related?
- dreen 4y agoI am in EU, it was my mistake to shorten Eastern EU to EEU. As to why not report this, sadly the systemic problems in this particular area are pretty deep. I'm not saying 'it won't do anything', but the results may be, at best, insignificant, and at worst quite bad for me. What is needed is farmland consolidation. It's easier to control one big, invested farmer than 100 semi-literate drunks holding the same amount collectively, each working their tiny little 10 acre bit. Unfortunately it is a common populist policy to slow down or reverse this process, to "stop foreigners buying out our homeland" or something.
- hammock 4y agoThat is really sad. I go out of my way to buy grain imported from Europe on the assumption that it is glyphosate free.
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- dekhn 4y agoAll the bees? Then anything that needs to be pollinated with bees has also died. Is that the case? Answer truthfully.
- dreen 4y agoI am not a career farmer, nor a bee inspector. Are they all dead? Probably not. But I know some beekeepers in the area and all of theirs died, and I'm not seeing hives around while they used to be common. Also, you should know bees are not the only pollinators.
- dekhn 4y agoYep, I know there are other pollinators- but there are definitely plants that are only pollinated by bees (see "Pollinator impact: 4- essential" on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_crop_plants_pollinated_by_bees https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_crop_plants_pollinated...) and that's why I wrote. my comment that way. Now you've gone from "are they all dead" to "I have an anecdote and some local people reported all their bees died". I, too have seen local anecdotes about that... and then verified that they weren't true, and areas near me have huge and healthy bee populations.