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To anyone suing over Stable Diffusion, or GitHub Copilot, or ChatGPT: Name one instance where US Courts shut down a new, growing technology field (not one parti
by gjsman-1000 4y ago
To anyone suing over Stable Diffusion, or GitHub Copilot, or ChatGPT: Name one instance where US Courts shut down a new, growing technology field (not one particular company, a growing field or industry) to protect copyright interests.
You can find plenty of cases where US Courts refused to do that, even if the copyright status quo was challenged. Sony vs Universal over VHS time-shifting. Lawsuits about ISPs permitting people to access copyrighted material illegally. Lawsuits about CD ripping. Lawsuits before DMCA 512 was a thing. All resulted in the copyright industry generally losing.
Here we are in 2022: ISPs aren't accomplices in copyright infringement for what you do online. CD ripping is legal for private use even if RIAA is still irritated about it. YouTube hasn't been smashed with claims of contributory infringement every time someone uploads one infringing video. Photoshop isn't considered responsible for abuses. And so forth...
- thwayunion 4y agoIMO the Aero case qualifies; that definitely would've turned into an entire cottage industry with several competitors and different business models if SCOTUS didn't kill off Aero at birth: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/supreme-court-puts-aereo-out-of-business/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/supreme-court-pu...
- nickfromseattle 4y agoRegardless of your opinion on ethics, if LLMs are allowed to scrape/use other people's content without sending traffic, it means LLMs will capture most of the value of every new piece of content created by humans. Do you think the world is a better place if the value of all content flows primarily into a handful of hyper scale tech companies?
- CWuestefeld 4y agoAs the saying goes, we're all standing on the shoulders of giants. It's a feature, not a bug, that we - and maybe now our created AIs - are able to build on top of others.
- b3morales 4y agoThis characterization is only reasonable if the output of the AIs is as free to consume as its inputs were. Otherwise it's a private fencing off of the commons: shoulders to stand on for me but not for thee.
- freejazz 4y agoThat's not an actual response, it's just a tautological statement as to why you are always right about this.
- bioemerl 4y agoThe alternative is not this. The alternative is you not being able to get data while the companies can.
- freejazz 4y agoDMCA took down file sharing networks. Pointing to legitimate fair uses as examples of why you are right is confused.