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I've looked around their website and the links people have commented here, but I've yet to see a video or image of the device actually working. I know it's hard

I've looked around their website and the links people have commented here, but I've yet to see a video or image of the device actually working. I know it's hard to demo AR devices, but a simple video of a phone camera pointing through the device to show that there is actually content displaying would add much more credibility. Especially for $350 I need to see some sort of product demonstration.

annon3845 4y ago
It's not much, but https://www.instagram.com/p/CgAu-TTlBHS https://www.instagram.com/p/CgAu-TTlBHS. They're not exactly helping their credibility with claims of 16x superZoom from a 720p camera.
- ortusdux 4y ago
  It looks like it is actually a 5mp camera. Specifically a Omnivision OV5640. I wonder if it is a 720p camera at 16x zoom. https://docs.brilliantmonocle.com/monocle/monocle/#camera https://docs.brilliantmonocle.com/monocle/monocle/#camera
  - Miraste 4y ago
    It's a 5MP camera for still photos, limited to 720p for video--although the data sheet says it can do 1080p as well. Perhaps that's bottlenecked elsewhere in the system.
    - canucker2016 4y ago
      from https://docs.brilliantmonocle.com/monocle/monocle/#bluetooth-mcu https://docs.brilliantmonocle.com/monocle/monocle/#bluetooth...: It supports Bluetooth 5.2, up to 2Mb/s. 720p == 1280w x 720h * 3bytes (rgb) * 8bits/byte == 22.1Mb / frame So video compression is going to have to get more than ~10x reduction to fit into 2Mb/s and that's just 1 frame/sec.
      - Aachen 4y ago
        10x reduction from raw to jpg is not what worries me (provided decent-ish computing power) as much as that this is a theoretical maximum under lab conditions. When has any wireless technology ever delivered? When 802.11n 300mbps was the hot thing that made LAN obsolete, you'd be happy to get 60 megabits (which is still plenty for most purposes, don't get me wrong, but it isn't 300). Bluetooth is more resilient due to spectrum hopping that I wish newer WiFis had taken over (no more channel madness where you either have to coordinate with 3d neighbors or, on auto, might have good and bad days; everything just uses the whole spectrum as efficiently as possible), but I still doubt you'll have one fps stable.
  - dylan604 4y ago
    720p claim may be specific to the video recording features while the stills capture could be at the higher resolution. or they could just be over-sampling to help reduce with noise by down-scaling the larger resolution to the smaller.
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- tootie 4y ago
  It seems to me that unlike HoloLens and such, it's not trying to be seamless. It's almost entirely obstructing one eye with a small screen. They use a translucent case so you can sorta see around the screen, but not very well. Kinda butts up against what the actual promise of AR was supposed to be.
  - Aeolun 4y ago
    To some extend. It would already be revolutional if they have an actual product instead of empty promises.
  - thaeli 4y ago
    So basically the same experience as a thermal monocular. Which is pretty decent "augmented vision" once you get used to it.
wyldfire 4y ago
It looks like the website does show a "through the lens" still photo as a part of a chat/endorsement bottom left hand side of the front page. "yeah super excited that our devkit has launched. here's me testing replay."
bluSCALE4 4y ago
The carousel with the play button works if you use the keyboard. It gives you an idea of how it works.
- Aachen 4y ago
  Does not work with Hacker's Keyboard (https://github.com/klausw/hackerskeyboard https://github.com/klausw/hackerskeyboard). It closes itself after a few deciseconds, whereas usually the permanent notification feature can be tapped to open and use a keyboard anywhere. Or maybe I haven't tried using it on the new Android 11 yet and yet another of my favorite hacks broke.... now that I try it elsewhere, it seems this app got broken by google breaking userspace again... Never mind, looks like I'll have to go and fetch a USB keyboard for this in the future :/

annon3845 4y ago

It's not much, but https://www.instagram.com/p/CgAu-TTlBHS https://www.instagram.com/p/CgAu-TTlBHS. They're not exactly helping their credibility with claims of 16x superZoom from a 720p camera.

ortusdux 4y ago
It looks like it is actually a 5mp camera. Specifically a Omnivision OV5640. I wonder if it is a 720p camera at 16x zoom. https://docs.brilliantmonocle.com/monocle/monocle/#camera https://docs.brilliantmonocle.com/monocle/monocle/#camera
- Miraste 4y ago
  It's a 5MP camera for still photos, limited to 720p for video--although the data sheet says it can do 1080p as well. Perhaps that's bottlenecked elsewhere in the system.
  - canucker2016 4y ago
    from https://docs.brilliantmonocle.com/monocle/monocle/#bluetooth-mcu https://docs.brilliantmonocle.com/monocle/monocle/#bluetooth...: It supports Bluetooth 5.2, up to 2Mb/s. 720p == 1280w x 720h * 3bytes (rgb) * 8bits/byte == 22.1Mb / frame So video compression is going to have to get more than ~10x reduction to fit into 2Mb/s and that's just 1 frame/sec.
    - Aachen 4y ago
      10x reduction from raw to jpg is not what worries me (provided decent-ish computing power) as much as that this is a theoretical maximum under lab conditions. When has any wireless technology ever delivered? When 802.11n 300mbps was the hot thing that made LAN obsolete, you'd be happy to get 60 megabits (which is still plenty for most purposes, don't get me wrong, but it isn't 300). Bluetooth is more resilient due to spectrum hopping that I wish newer WiFis had taken over (no more channel madness where you either have to coordinate with 3d neighbors or, on auto, might have good and bad days; everything just uses the whole spectrum as efficiently as possible), but I still doubt you'll have one fps stable.
- dylan604 4y ago
  720p claim may be specific to the video recording features while the stills capture could be at the higher resolution. or they could just be over-sampling to help reduce with noise by down-scaling the larger resolution to the smaller.
- deleted 4y ago
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tootie 4y ago
It seems to me that unlike HoloLens and such, it's not trying to be seamless. It's almost entirely obstructing one eye with a small screen. They use a translucent case so you can sorta see around the screen, but not very well. Kinda butts up against what the actual promise of AR was supposed to be.
- Aeolun 4y ago
  To some extend. It would already be revolutional if they have an actual product instead of empty promises.
- thaeli 4y ago
  So basically the same experience as a thermal monocular. Which is pretty decent "augmented vision" once you get used to it.

wyldfire 4y ago

It looks like the website does show a "through the lens" still photo as a part of a chat/endorsement bottom left hand side of the front page. "yeah super excited that our devkit has launched. here's me testing replay."

bluSCALE4 4y ago

The carousel with the play button works if you use the keyboard. It gives you an idea of how it works.

Aachen 4y ago
Does not work with Hacker's Keyboard (https://github.com/klausw/hackerskeyboard https://github.com/klausw/hackerskeyboard). It closes itself after a few deciseconds, whereas usually the permanent notification feature can be tapped to open and use a keyboard anywhere. Or maybe I haven't tried using it on the new Android 11 yet and yet another of my favorite hacks broke.... now that I try it elsewhere, it seems this app got broken by google breaking userspace again... Never mind, looks like I'll have to go and fetch a USB keyboard for this in the future :/