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Sounds more like a switch of domination at the iOS platform from Webkit to Chromium. Personally, I am really happy with Safari but I am not convinced Firefox m

• FoxBJK 4y ago
  Wonder how long it'll take for Blink to overtake WebKit on iOS in terms of usage.
  • labcomputer 4y ago
    A few weeks, at least. By that point, nearly every user should have gotten a notification that YouTube, GMail or Google Search is 100000% better with Chrome.
    • netheril96 4y ago
      On iOS I doubt people use the browser for YouTube, GMail. Those have dedicated apps.
      • acdha 4y ago
        Why do people install those apps? Because the first time they visit that site on a new phone it tells them that everything will be better in the app, without mentioning that this is mostly true only for advertisers.
        • ribosometronome 4y ago
          And essentially every time you click a link in one of those apps.
        • warning26 4y ago
          Ehh...I do think the native app often gives a better experience than mWeb. Don't get me wrong, a really well-written PWA with fully cached assets is often almost at a native app experience level, but that's not usually the case with most mWeb implementations.
          • acdha 4y ago
            For Gmail, perhaps — I think that’s one of the best cases for push notifications on the web — but YouTube basically comes down to whether you need large offline storage and search is a non-issue. One thing I noticed about both Google and Facebook’s apps before deleting them was that in addition to using more battery, both were slower in their apps than using the web site. That was surprising but consistent & a large part of why I ditched them.
            • sfink 4y ago
              For me, YouTube comes down to the fact that if I use YouTube through Firefox for Android, and install the "Video Background Play Fix" addon, then I can go for a walk with my phone in my pocket and listen to things through YouTube without having it pause as soon as the screen turns off. Well, I believe you can do that if you pay for YouTube Extortion Edition or whatever it's called. Which I used to do, until too many ads still came through and I got pissed off. (Though note: if I got to a YouTube link through anything other than going directly to the site and searching, then it would open in the app. Which would then pause when I turned off the screen. Which was irritating. Fixed by disabling the YouTube app entirely. Life is much better now.)
              • acdha 4y ago
                Ah, that works in mobile Safari without an extension.
                • oblio 4y ago
                  Does mobile Safari block ads?
                  • acdha 4y ago
                    There are content blockers, which are not as comprehensive as Firefox or Chrome extensions but also avoid the performant and privacy concerns common in that space.
        • izacus 4y ago
          So you're saying that opening the browser market will improve data collection and reduce the need to install apps, thus strenghtening the web? Sounds amazing.
          • acdha 4y ago
            I’m saying that it doesn’t do the web a service to break one monopoly while doing nothing about the more successful second monopoly. I want an open App Store but I also want fair competition in the browser market.
      • twism 4y ago
        but imagine if they didn't need the app
      • latexr 4y ago
        On iOS you can block YouTube ads if you watch through the browser. That alone makes plenty of people not bother with the app.
  • madeofpalk 4y ago
    I don't think it ever would. I think the majority of users would stay with the default browser. I think that within a more tech-aware demographic, they'll see more people use Chrome.
• kitsunesoba 4y ago
  Mozilla is going to have to pull off some crazy marketing genius to have any chance against the coming onslaught from Google and Microsoft. Both companies are likely willing to do just about whatever it takes to convert that chunk of previously inaccessible users… growth opportunities like that don't appear in the browser space very often.
• isodev 4y ago
  A browser from an Ad company and … I don’t know what Mozilla is these days. Doesn’t sound very reassuring. I hope they’d at least try to address memory and performance issues from their desktop counterparts. One amazing (and unmatched) feature of Safari on any platform it runs on is how smooth and battery friendly it is.
  • rezonant 4y ago
    I browse the web most of the day on my Pixel 6 Pro, and battery usage indicates Chrome has taken 3% of my battery since last full charge. I'm sure iOS has a similar battery usage monitoring feature, I'm curious what percent Safari shows for you? edit: and I'm at 13% remaining (blame TikTok), so not like I just woke up with a full charge.
    • isodev 4y ago
      The % is related to the amount of time you spent in a given app (and how much battery it consumes in that period). If you don't use your browser, then of course, you will not see battery use allocated to it.