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Like...a lease?

by Khelavaster 4y ago

Like...a lease?

prox 4y ago
Nope, more like “pay this to unlock the features x,y and z”
- jeroenhd 4y ago
  This is already being done by moet major brands these days. They can only withhold luxury features like heated seating for now, but who knows when they take away basic features such as radio, replace it with a Spotify app, and demand a special subscription to listen tk music in your car.
  - mister_tee 4y ago
    I was trying to look up a Tesla special case (where upgrading the infotainment unit removes the radio unless an additional $500 upgrade is purchased) and learned that several EV manufacturers have already removed AM radio because electric motors interfere with that frequency range. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/10/business/media/am-radio-cars.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/10/business/media/am-radio-c... "Carmakers noted that drivers can still stream AM radio on apps and not all electric vehicles have dropped it."
    - yencabulator 4y ago
      Removing hardware features is fine by me. Selling hardware features that can't be used, and rent-seeking with them, is user-hostile.
  - acomjean 4y ago
    Want to drive without this awful music? 10$ I see ransomware coming to cars.
    - NikkiA 4y ago
      Why awful music when it could be ads?
      - lp0_on_fire 4y ago
        "Please pull over and watch this message from our sponsors to continue your journey"
- grishka 4y ago
  People would 100% be jailbreaking this stuff.
  - goodpoint 4y ago
    ...and after a car accident you get all the blame and other legal consequences for having tampered with your car.
  - urbandw311er 4y ago
    Or just physically cutting open the seat and bypassing the switch
    - prox 4y ago
      Unless it has an AI, “you have violated the integrity of this vehicle, starting protocols have been disabled. Please contact your local representative.”
      - yootyootr 4y ago
        "drink a verification can to continue"
      - goodpoint 4y ago
        A microcontroller is probably enough, no need to throw in the big AI word.
  - Idiot_in_Vain 4y ago
    Very few people. What percentage of iPhone users have their phones jailbroken? 0.0001% Almost no one will do it - it's a lot of work, loss of warranty, loss of small conveniences.
    - withinboredom 4y ago
      I used to always jailbreak my iphone (mostly because I was one of the first owners and had been doing that since it was possible). The last time I did it, the apps were just too sketchy and wanted too much permissions. I didn't really see the value in it. Maybe things are better these days, but I haven't checked in the last 6-7 years.

Like...a lease?

prox 4y ago

Nope, more like “pay this to unlock the features x,y and z”

jeroenhd 4y ago
This is already being done by moet major brands these days. They can only withhold luxury features like heated seating for now, but who knows when they take away basic features such as radio, replace it with a Spotify app, and demand a special subscription to listen tk music in your car.
- mister_tee 4y ago
  I was trying to look up a Tesla special case (where upgrading the infotainment unit removes the radio unless an additional $500 upgrade is purchased) and learned that several EV manufacturers have already removed AM radio because electric motors interfere with that frequency range. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/10/business/media/am-radio-cars.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/10/business/media/am-radio-c... "Carmakers noted that drivers can still stream AM radio on apps and not all electric vehicles have dropped it."
  - yencabulator 4y ago
    Removing hardware features is fine by me. Selling hardware features that can't be used, and rent-seeking with them, is user-hostile.
- acomjean 4y ago
  Want to drive without this awful music? 10$ I see ransomware coming to cars.
  - NikkiA 4y ago
    Why awful music when it could be ads?
    - lp0_on_fire 4y ago
      "Please pull over and watch this message from our sponsors to continue your journey"
grishka 4y ago
People would 100% be jailbreaking this stuff.
- goodpoint 4y ago
  ...and after a car accident you get all the blame and other legal consequences for having tampered with your car.
- urbandw311er 4y ago
  Or just physically cutting open the seat and bypassing the switch
  - prox 4y ago
    Unless it has an AI, “you have violated the integrity of this vehicle, starting protocols have been disabled. Please contact your local representative.”
    - yootyootr 4y ago
      "drink a verification can to continue"
    - goodpoint 4y ago
      A microcontroller is probably enough, no need to throw in the big AI word.
- Idiot_in_Vain 4y ago
  Very few people. What percentage of iPhone users have their phones jailbroken? 0.0001% Almost no one will do it - it's a lot of work, loss of warranty, loss of small conveniences.
  - withinboredom 4y ago
    I used to always jailbreak my iphone (mostly because I was one of the first owners and had been doing that since it was possible). The last time I did it, the apps were just too sketchy and wanted too much permissions. I didn't really see the value in it. Maybe things are better these days, but I haven't checked in the last 6-7 years.