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Android has a bloat problem in general. I uninstalled almost everything on my new iPad. On my Pixel 6A, I can only disable stock apps (they are still there taki

Android has a bloat problem in general. I uninstalled almost everything on my new iPad. On my Pixel 6A, I can only disable stock apps (they are still there taking up space). Its 2023, I should be able to completely uninstall apps I don't need.

murderfs 4y ago
That's likely because Apple is doing the same thing but just lying to you about it. You can't uninstall stock apps because they came on a read-only system image that was signed by your device manufacturer.
- MBCook 4y ago
  Depends on the app. You can get rid of the real ones like Pages or Sheets or Clips. Mail or Calculator or Find My is just getting hidden.
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- marcellus23 4y ago
  This isn’t true. Deleting apps does actually remove that app and usually user data too. Associated system frameworks might stick around because other parts of the OS depend on them.
  - Mindwipe 4y ago
    > This isn’t true. Deleting apps does actually remove that app and usually user data too. It is true. Factory reset your iOS device and they will come back. That happens because the app is stored still, Apple just creates a second copy that it deletes when you remove the app.
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tpush 4y ago
You can't uninstall apps contained in the OS image; you're just hiding them. Applies to Android as much as iOS and macOS, too, for that matter.
- nijave 4y ago
  Afaik on Android you can still uninstall updates so you're left with the OS image app version instead of OS image app + updated app On the other hand, now you have an old app version lingering
- nszceta 4y ago
  adb pm uninstall is pretty strong on stock unrooted Android This functionality can ONLY be accessed via ADB. It is DIFFERENT from "hiding." You can break lots of stuff, even Google spyware (Play framework), which is the evidence I need that adb pm uninstall actually works to disable prepackaged manufacturer malware! Don't wait - try it today: https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater
  - capitainenemo 4y ago
    pretty sure that just removes it for current user. the app still sits around on the image bloating things up that way. although it does save a little space.
    - nszceta 4y ago
      You can uninstall for all users using the adb helper tool I don't know the command line to do it manually. Yes it's not removed but at least the guarantee it won't run is quite strong.
      - capitainenemo 4y ago
        True... but in that case isn't it the same thing as using the "uninstall" feature in Android app management settings for bundled apps that just deactivates and removes all updates, basically just keeping the bundled installer?
nijave 4y ago
LineageOS (Android build without Google Play) is generally <500MiB. Google apps usually had on something like 500MiB-1.5GiB depending on what you install. Usually OEM devices have at least that much plus whatever their own stuff is piled on
bee_rider 4y ago
For that kind of futuristic functionality you’ll need to go to the year 2000.

murderfs 4y ago

That's likely because Apple is doing the same thing but just lying to you about it. You can't uninstall stock apps because they came on a read-only system image that was signed by your device manufacturer.

MBCook 4y ago
Depends on the app. You can get rid of the real ones like Pages or Sheets or Clips. Mail or Calculator or Find My is just getting hidden.
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marcellus23 4y ago
This isn’t true. Deleting apps does actually remove that app and usually user data too. Associated system frameworks might stick around because other parts of the OS depend on them.
- Mindwipe 4y ago
  > This isn’t true. Deleting apps does actually remove that app and usually user data too. It is true. Factory reset your iOS device and they will come back. That happens because the app is stored still, Apple just creates a second copy that it deletes when you remove the app.
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tpush 4y ago

You can't uninstall apps contained in the OS image; you're just hiding them. Applies to Android as much as iOS and macOS, too, for that matter.

nijave 4y ago
Afaik on Android you can still uninstall updates so you're left with the OS image app version instead of OS image app + updated app On the other hand, now you have an old app version lingering
nszceta 4y ago
adb pm uninstall is pretty strong on stock unrooted Android This functionality can ONLY be accessed via ADB. It is DIFFERENT from "hiding." You can break lots of stuff, even Google spyware (Play framework), which is the evidence I need that adb pm uninstall actually works to disable prepackaged manufacturer malware! Don't wait - try it today: https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater
- capitainenemo 4y ago
  pretty sure that just removes it for current user. the app still sits around on the image bloating things up that way. although it does save a little space.
  - nszceta 4y ago
    You can uninstall for all users using the adb helper tool I don't know the command line to do it manually. Yes it's not removed but at least the guarantee it won't run is quite strong.
    - capitainenemo 4y ago
      True... but in that case isn't it the same thing as using the "uninstall" feature in Android app management settings for bundled apps that just deactivates and removes all updates, basically just keeping the bundled installer?

nijave 4y ago

LineageOS (Android build without Google Play) is generally <500MiB. Google apps usually had on something like 500MiB-1.5GiB depending on what you install. Usually OEM devices have at least that much plus whatever their own stuff is piled on

bee_rider 4y ago

For that kind of futuristic functionality you’ll need to go to the year 2000.