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Utah just banned transitioning youth. Google is your friend, no need to guess.

by freejazz 4y ago

xcxs 4y ago
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- freejazz 4y ago
  I mean you are describing it as a contagion, this isn't going to be a worthwhile conversation, but, I will just say that I disagree.
  - xcxs 4y ago
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    - freejazz 4y ago
      What do you mean its a familiar pattern? What do you mean better explanation? You don't have an explanation, you just have a pejorative descriptor... I'm genuinely uninterested in post-battling somebody who seems to have an axe to grind over this.
      - braingenious 4y ago
        This person created an account just to anonymously post decade-old recycled *channer content. It’s pointless to ask a question that can’t be answered by feverishly searching old greentext, as low-effort trolls can’t actually form opinions of their own
      - xcxs 4y ago
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nomel 4y ago
The fact that two people responded with two different answers shows that guessing is required. Indirectness is popular with these types of topics, and I don't understand why. It's almost like it's used to preemptively set up a fight, with responses similar to yours, like "Well, you're not paying attention" or "How could you not know?". It's not useful, to anyone.
- freejazz 4y ago
  It shows the opposite, that there is so much of this going on.... > It's not useful, to anyone What's not useful to everyone is acting like you don't read the news, can't read the news, or in the event that someone points out something in the news that you didn't, that you somehow cannot be availed of that knowledge in a way that doesn't render the argument moot. It's really stupid when you think about it that way. Plus, aren't we supposed to be making the effort of understanding each other here. Sitting in ignorance to insist you can't think of a single example isn't really making that effort.
  - nomel 4y ago
    I covered your response, here, which appears to be accurate: > It's almost like it's used to preemptively set up a fight, with responses similar to yours, like "Well, you're not paying attention" or "How could you not know?". A stage was set where people can easily be placed into a box, created by an intentional lack of clarity. They can then be easily attack for not seeing things "as clearly" as they should. It's not possible for anything positive to come out of an exchange built in that context. By that, it's not useful, unless your goal is actually to create a negative exchange.
    - freejazz 4y ago
      That's a much bigger assumption than assuming someone talking about contemporary news follows it.
      - nomel 4y ago
arp242 4y ago
The claims were "outlaw all trans people and force them to detransition" and "trans people have died at the hands of bigots". The Utah law "prohibits health care providers from providing hormonal transgender treatments to minors and those not diagnosed with gender dysphoria".[1] That's not the same thing at all. [1]: https://healthnews.com/news/utah-limits-access-to-gender-affirming-care-for-transgender-youth/ https://healthnews.com/news/utah-limits-access-to-gender-aff...
- PartiallyTyped 4y ago
  They meant inferring I referred to the GOP. That’s simply a single edge jump from “Utah GOP” to GOP.

Utah just banned transitioning youth. Google is your friend, no need to guess.

xcxs 4y ago

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freejazz 4y ago
I mean you are describing it as a contagion, this isn't going to be a worthwhile conversation, but, I will just say that I disagree.
- xcxs 4y ago
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  - freejazz 4y ago
    What do you mean its a familiar pattern? What do you mean better explanation? You don't have an explanation, you just have a pejorative descriptor... I'm genuinely uninterested in post-battling somebody who seems to have an axe to grind over this.
    - braingenious 4y ago
      This person created an account just to anonymously post decade-old recycled *channer content. It’s pointless to ask a question that can’t be answered by feverishly searching old greentext, as low-effort trolls can’t actually form opinions of their own
    - xcxs 4y ago
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nomel 4y ago

The fact that two people responded with two different answers shows that guessing is required. Indirectness is popular with these types of topics, and I don't understand why. It's almost like it's used to preemptively set up a fight, with responses similar to yours, like "Well, you're not paying attention" or "How could you not know?". It's not useful, to anyone.

freejazz 4y ago
It shows the opposite, that there is so much of this going on.... > It's not useful, to anyone What's not useful to everyone is acting like you don't read the news, can't read the news, or in the event that someone points out something in the news that you didn't, that you somehow cannot be availed of that knowledge in a way that doesn't render the argument moot. It's really stupid when you think about it that way. Plus, aren't we supposed to be making the effort of understanding each other here. Sitting in ignorance to insist you can't think of a single example isn't really making that effort.
- nomel 4y ago
  I covered your response, here, which appears to be accurate: > It's almost like it's used to preemptively set up a fight, with responses similar to yours, like "Well, you're not paying attention" or "How could you not know?". A stage was set where people can easily be placed into a box, created by an intentional lack of clarity. They can then be easily attack for not seeing things "as clearly" as they should. It's not possible for anything positive to come out of an exchange built in that context. By that, it's not useful, unless your goal is actually to create a negative exchange.
  - freejazz 4y ago
    That's a much bigger assumption than assuming someone talking about contemporary news follows it.
    - nomel 4y ago

arp242 4y ago

The claims were "outlaw all trans people and force them to detransition" and "trans people have died at the hands of bigots". The Utah law "prohibits health care providers from providing hormonal transgender treatments to minors and those not diagnosed with gender dysphoria".[1] That's not the same thing at all. [1]: https://healthnews.com/news/utah-limits-access-to-gender-affirming-care-for-transgender-youth/ https://healthnews.com/news/utah-limits-access-to-gender-aff...

PartiallyTyped 4y ago
They meant inferring I referred to the GOP. That’s simply a single edge jump from “Utah GOP” to GOP.