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The US State Department has already adopted the new spelling, so you're wrong. https://www.npr.org/2023/01/08/1147704945/the-state-department-will-begin-spelli

The US State Department has already adopted the new spelling, so you're wrong. https://www.npr.org/2023/01/08/1147704945/the-state-department-will-begin-spelling-turkey-as-turkiye https://www.npr.org/2023/01/08/1147704945/the-state-departme... It's silly to think things don't change and rude to call people names they don't want to be called

midoridensha 4y ago
News flash: The US State Department is not the authority on the English language either. Nor is the US government. The only authority on the English language is popular usage.
- AYBABTME 4y ago
  News flash: popular usage will shift based on popular intentions, and you might be in the losing camp here.
- spoils19 4y ago
  I disagree. The English language has spread around the world due to the US' work internationally.
  - mlindner 4y ago
    More recently yes, but historically it was from the British Empire. US's influence has helped expand it to many countries that never had former extensive use of English creating many new second language speakers, but in terms of first language speakers, the British Empire is still the cause of almost all of them.
    - nradov 4y ago
      Well the UK government now also uses the "Türkiye" spelling.
      - mlindner 4y ago
        And the British people still use Turkey, and always will.
mlindner 4y ago
Wikipedia is a better source for common usage than the US state department, and they've explicitly resisted changing the spelling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey And even then all major US publications use Turkey: https://www.wsj.com/articles/powerful-earthquake-strikes-turkey-and-syria-killing-more-than-1-300-people-11675680084 https://www.wsj.com/articles/powerful-earthquake-strikes-tur... https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/02/05/world/turkey-earthquake https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/02/05/world/turkey-earthqu... https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/turkey-earthquake-latest-020623/index.html https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/turkey-earthquake-l... https://www.foxnews.com/world/people-dead-turkey-syria-after-7-8-magnitude-earthquake https://www.foxnews.com/world/people-dead-turkey-syria-after... So no, even in the US, "Türkiye" is not used. Please don't try to dictate to Americans and other first language speakers how our language is used.
- Jcowell 4y ago
  > Wikipedia is a better source for common usage than the US state department, and they've explicitly resisted changing the spelling. Why would common usage matter for something that recently changed? Of course the former name is more commonly used. The State Department is the better source since they’re the ones dictating how the US government as a whole interacts with Türkiye. It doesn’t matter what the people in the US call countries if we’re not the ones making deals and talking to their leaders. I can convince everyone that Russia would be call Assuria but that doesn’t make it’s name. The only ones that have authority of the name of a country is the country itself.

midoridensha 4y ago

News flash: The US State Department is not the authority on the English language either. Nor is the US government. The only authority on the English language is popular usage.

AYBABTME 4y ago
News flash: popular usage will shift based on popular intentions, and you might be in the losing camp here.
spoils19 4y ago
I disagree. The English language has spread around the world due to the US' work internationally.
- mlindner 4y ago
  More recently yes, but historically it was from the British Empire. US's influence has helped expand it to many countries that never had former extensive use of English creating many new second language speakers, but in terms of first language speakers, the British Empire is still the cause of almost all of them.
  - nradov 4y ago
    Well the UK government now also uses the "Türkiye" spelling.
    - mlindner 4y ago
      And the British people still use Turkey, and always will.

mlindner 4y ago

Wikipedia is a better source for common usage than the US state department, and they've explicitly resisted changing the spelling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey And even then all major US publications use Turkey: https://www.wsj.com/articles/powerful-earthquake-strikes-turkey-and-syria-killing-more-than-1-300-people-11675680084 https://www.wsj.com/articles/powerful-earthquake-strikes-tur... https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/02/05/world/turkey-earthquake https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/02/05/world/turkey-earthqu... https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/turkey-earthquake-latest-020623/index.html https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/turkey-earthquake-l... https://www.foxnews.com/world/people-dead-turkey-syria-after-7-8-magnitude-earthquake https://www.foxnews.com/world/people-dead-turkey-syria-after... So no, even in the US, "Türkiye" is not used. Please don't try to dictate to Americans and other first language speakers how our language is used.

Jcowell 4y ago
> Wikipedia is a better source for common usage than the US state department, and they've explicitly resisted changing the spelling. Why would common usage matter for something that recently changed? Of course the former name is more commonly used. The State Department is the better source since they’re the ones dictating how the US government as a whole interacts with Türkiye. It doesn’t matter what the people in the US call countries if we’re not the ones making deals and talking to their leaders. I can convince everyone that Russia would be call Assuria but that doesn’t make it’s name. The only ones that have authority of the name of a country is the country itself.