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Hiding behind an appeal to averages does not change the fact that Damore said women [on average] are biologically incapable of being in tech and leadership posi

Hiding behind an appeal to averages does not change the fact that Damore said women [on average] are biologically incapable of being in tech and leadership positions. Again, Damore reaped the consequences of his own actions by violating a contract he agreed to. This is intentionally misleading to represent him as a martyr for right-wingers. Unless, of course, you think the conservative agenda includes promoting that women are biologically incapable of holding teach and leadership positions.

throwaway894345 4y ago
If course, he didn’t say “on average women are incapable of leadership”. Care to try again with words he actually used?
- minsc_and_boo 4y ago
  Can you? I'm not trying to make a point by hiding behind an appeal to averages.
  - throwaway894345 4y ago
    No one is trying to make a point by hiding behind an appeal to averages. That's the point. The fact that you can't support your assertions about Damore's claims (without changing his words) proves my point. :)
    - minsc_and_boo 4y ago
      You mean the direct quote made above with the "assertions"? Are you intentionally playing dumb? Here it is (again): > I’m simply stating that the distribution of preferences and abilities of men and women differ in part due to biological causes and that these differences may explain why we don’t see equal representation of women in tech and leadership.
ackfoobar 4y ago
Damore's argument looks more like this: An average man is incapable of being in tech. An average woman is incapable of being in tech. There are men and women at the tail who are capable of being in tech. Because of the difference in averages, there are fewer women than men who are capable and want to be in tech. --- Collapsing all that to "women [on average] are biologically incapable of being in tech" is disingenuous. Using words like "incapable" implies binariness, ignoring the continuous nature of distributions.
- minsc_and_boo 4y ago
  Collapsing Damore's argument into "An average man is incapable of being in tech. An average woman is incapable of being in tech." is disingenious, especially given his quote only speaks to one sex. But then I doubt you care, especially since your account does nothing but astroturf Damore on HN.
  - ackfoobar 4y ago
    Those first two sentences were me using your phrasing to set the scene. I do google Damore on HN to seek out misinformation to debunk. The other hot takes that I do is trash-talking car dependent urban planning. Occasionally I learn new things in the latter discussions.

throwaway894345 4y ago

If course, he didn’t say “on average women are incapable of leadership”. Care to try again with words he actually used?

minsc_and_boo 4y ago
Can you? I'm not trying to make a point by hiding behind an appeal to averages.
- throwaway894345 4y ago
  No one is trying to make a point by hiding behind an appeal to averages. That's the point. The fact that you can't support your assertions about Damore's claims (without changing his words) proves my point. :)
  - minsc_and_boo 4y ago
    You mean the direct quote made above with the "assertions"? Are you intentionally playing dumb? Here it is (again): > I’m simply stating that the distribution of preferences and abilities of men and women differ in part due to biological causes and that these differences may explain why we don’t see equal representation of women in tech and leadership.

ackfoobar 4y ago

Damore's argument looks more like this: An average man is incapable of being in tech. An average woman is incapable of being in tech. There are men and women at the tail who are capable of being in tech. Because of the difference in averages, there are fewer women than men who are capable and want to be in tech. --- Collapsing all that to "women [on average] are biologically incapable of being in tech" is disingenuous. Using words like "incapable" implies binariness, ignoring the continuous nature of distributions.

minsc_and_boo 4y ago
Collapsing Damore's argument into "An average man is incapable of being in tech. An average woman is incapable of being in tech." is disingenious, especially given his quote only speaks to one sex. But then I doubt you care, especially since your account does nothing but astroturf Damore on HN.
- ackfoobar 4y ago
  Those first two sentences were me using your phrasing to set the scene. I do google Damore on HN to seek out misinformation to debunk. The other hot takes that I do is trash-talking car dependent urban planning. Occasionally I learn new things in the latter discussions.