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Google search 'raters' demand fair treatment, deliver petition at headquarters

56 points by smadge 4y ago

oriettaxx 4y ago
very good they come out and let the world know (btw: 20 years ago human google raters were not supposed to even exist!)
- hgsgm 4y ago
  Why not?
- DeepYogurt 4y ago
  No joke. Honestly a revelation that they do exist
joebob42 4y ago
They keep saying they make less than ca minimum wage, but as best I understand they don't work in CA so I don't understand why that's relevant? People all over the world make less than CA minimum wage, it's a lot of money in many places.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > They keep saying they make less than ca minimum wage The key demand is that they get the same minimum wage Google promises its extended workforce across the USA ($15/hr), not California minimum wage ($15.50/hr). The article subhead and first paragraph mention (not attributed to a complaint of the workers) that they make less than CA minimum wage, but that is not the issue, and the article correctly notes the workers demands later on.
  - joebob42 4y ago
    Yeah, I just thought the reference to CA minimum wage at all seemed a little out of place.
pessimizer 4y ago
> Stackhouse said that because raters work remotely and are scattered throughout the country, it’s been challenging to connect with one another. > “The power that they (Google) have is the fact that we don’t know each other,” Stackhouse said. “We’re finally getting a chance to learn who our coworkers are. But for the longest time, we’ve been basically kept in the dark as to who we’re working with.”
charcircuit 4y ago
Why are they not asking these demands of their contracting agency? Google does not pay these people.
- pjc50 4y ago
  Google employs them though, in the sense of taking most of their time and providing most of their pay, and the contractor is a responsibility-evasion shim in that relationship. We've been round this discussion often enough with things like Uber.
- hgsgm 4y ago
  Google sets minimum standards for supplier labor, as they should. Responsibility cannot be outsourced. https://support.google.com/corporate-suppliers/answer/10208902 https://support.google.com/corporate-suppliers/answer/102089...
  - nradov 4y ago
    Government should set the minimum standards for supplier labor.
    - hgsgm 4y ago
      Why not both? What is a company if not government for its workers and suppliers?
      - nradov 4y ago
        A company is a voluntary association. It is nothing at all like a government.
  - britch 4y ago
    Notably these do not currently apply to raters
    - hgsgm 4y ago
mr_woozy 4y ago
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56 points by smadge 4y ago

oriettaxx 4y ago

very good they come out and let the world know (btw: 20 years ago human google raters were not supposed to even exist!)

hgsgm 4y ago
Why not?
DeepYogurt 4y ago
No joke. Honestly a revelation that they do exist

joebob42 4y ago

They keep saying they make less than ca minimum wage, but as best I understand they don't work in CA so I don't understand why that's relevant? People all over the world make less than CA minimum wage, it's a lot of money in many places.

dragonwriter 4y ago
> They keep saying they make less than ca minimum wage The key demand is that they get the same minimum wage Google promises its extended workforce across the USA ($15/hr), not California minimum wage ($15.50/hr). The article subhead and first paragraph mention (not attributed to a complaint of the workers) that they make less than CA minimum wage, but that is not the issue, and the article correctly notes the workers demands later on.
- joebob42 4y ago
  Yeah, I just thought the reference to CA minimum wage at all seemed a little out of place.

pessimizer 4y ago

> Stackhouse said that because raters work remotely and are scattered throughout the country, it’s been challenging to connect with one another. > “The power that they (Google) have is the fact that we don’t know each other,” Stackhouse said. “We’re finally getting a chance to learn who our coworkers are. But for the longest time, we’ve been basically kept in the dark as to who we’re working with.”

charcircuit 4y ago

Why are they not asking these demands of their contracting agency? Google does not pay these people.

pjc50 4y ago
Google employs them though, in the sense of taking most of their time and providing most of their pay, and the contractor is a responsibility-evasion shim in that relationship. We've been round this discussion often enough with things like Uber.
hgsgm 4y ago
Google sets minimum standards for supplier labor, as they should. Responsibility cannot be outsourced. https://support.google.com/corporate-suppliers/answer/10208902 https://support.google.com/corporate-suppliers/answer/102089...
- nradov 4y ago
  Government should set the minimum standards for supplier labor.
  - hgsgm 4y ago
    Why not both? What is a company if not government for its workers and suppliers?
    - nradov 4y ago
      A company is a voluntary association. It is nothing at all like a government.
- britch 4y ago
  Notably these do not currently apply to raters
  - hgsgm 4y ago

mr_woozy 4y ago

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