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I'm curious as to why the dialogue is so bad. What AI is this using? When I ask ChatGPT to write a scene, the results are usually somewhat funny: INT. JERRY'S

I'm curious as to why the dialogue is so bad. What AI is this using? When I ask ChatGPT to write a scene, the results are usually somewhat funny: INT. JERRY'S CAR - DAY Jerry and George are driving down the road, with Jerry behind the wheel. Jerry: (gazing at the cup holder) This car is such a piece of junk, it doesn't even have a proper cup holder. George: What are you talking about? It has a cup holder right there! Jerry: (skeptical) That's not a cup holder, that's just a little indentation in the dash. George: It's a cup holder, Jerry! I've used it a million times. Jerry: (sarcastically) Oh, well if you've used it, then it must be a proper cup holder. George: (defensive) Hey, I've never had a problem with it. Jerry: (exasperated) That's because you don't have any standards. A real cup holder should be able to hold a variety of cup sizes, not just the tiny little cups you drink out of. George: (scoffing) That's ridiculous, Jerry. Who needs a cup holder that big? Jerry: (serious) I do, George. I like to drink my coffee in a real cup. George: (rolling his eyes) You and your fancy coffee cups. Jerry: (smiling) Hey, I have standards, George. What can I say? George: (laughing) I guess that's what makes you, you. Jerry: (laughing) And that's what makes you, you. They both burst into laughter as the car pulls up to a stop light. End Scene.

motoxpro 4y ago
I thought the dialog was amazing? It's generating conversations and a script for a TV show, are you expecting it to be as good as the original? It's crazy that they can carry out a conversation from start to end about a specific topic.
- smith7018 4y ago
  I wonder how much of a copyright violation this must be. I mean, they obviously fed it a lot of Seinfeld scripts for it to understand the characters and humor. I know HN likes to say "fair use" but I wonder how Hollywood's lawyers feel about that
  - kerpotgh 4y ago
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  - mofreelumch 4y ago
    Fanfilms are actually a fair use case I learned recently (went down a rabbit hole after discovering the wide world of Friday the 13th fan made sequels)
  - mcbutterbunz 4y ago
    This is the question I have about feeding scripts to AI. If I watched a ton of Seinfeld and came up with my own idea about a script, is that a copyright violation? Whats the difference between that and an AI bot learning it? I don't think Hollywood or anyone can reasonably expect people to consume some sort of media (whether its a book, tv show, music) and not come up with their own interpretations and ideas around it.
    - davidw 4y ago
      Maybe the biggest beneficiary of AI will be lawyers.
crayboff 4y ago
I can't find the post I saw from the creator, but apparently this is something they have been working on for years, well before ChatGPT. They created their own script generator.
dbspin 4y ago
That's actually extremely impressive, even for chat GPT. Not only is it a coherent scene, the humour emerges from a disagreement about an incidental detail in the lived environment. While situated in a realistic situation that's typical of the series. With the detail in question being a real environmental detail of that situation. George is irate and Jerry sarcastically winds him up. It literally could be segment from a real episode (bar the ending). So we have (an impersonation of) theory of mind, coherent understanding of setting, a narrative structure etc. Compared to the infinite Seinfeld, which appears composed of disconnected setup -> response type gags, it's night and day.
- kerpotgh 4y ago
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- marcosdumay 4y ago
  Hum, yes, it is impressive, but... > While situated in a realistic situation that's typical of the series. That's a bit of a low bar. > With the detail in question being a real environmental detail of that situation. George is irate and Jerry sarcastically winds him up. And that's what you typically get from trying to replicate statistical data from the series. It's a very good impersonation of a theory of mind, but it's an impersonation. The most surprising part is that when asked for a Seinfield episode, it actually tries to construct a Seinfield episode. But somehow, that's that part that least impress most people.
goodSteveramos 4y ago
This is exactly like Seinfeld but that only means its dry as sandpaper rubbing on tree bark.
nextaccountic 4y ago
The description says it's GPT3
- kerpotgh 4y ago
  I find that hard to believe especially when chatGPT is spitting out straight, coherent gems. None of the stuff on that stream is coherent.
  - nextaccountic 4y ago
    GPT-3 is much inferior to ChatGPT, indeed.
rirze 4y ago
Yes, but will ChatGPT give you another scene and will it be very different?
- kerpotgh 4y ago
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rubslopes 4y ago
I just did a test and got a truly funny Seinfeld scene. I'm amazed. [Scene opens in Jerry's apartment. Kramer bursts in with a big grin on his face.] Kramer: Jerry, you won't believe what happened to me last night! Jerry: What is it? Kramer: I won the lottery! Jerry: (surprised) What?! That's fantastic! Congratulations! Kramer: Yeah, I can't believe it myself. I never win anything. Jerry: (skeptically) How much did you win? Kramer: (proudly) Fifty bucks! Jerry: (disappointed) Fifty bucks? That's it? Kramer: (defensively) Hey, it's not about the amount, it's about the odds. I beat a million-to-one shot! Jerry: (teasing) Yeah, I guess it's like winning the Olympics of scratch-off tickets. Kramer: (serious) You know, I've been thinking. With this newfound wealth, I'm going to quit my job and live the life of leisure. Jerry: (skeptically) You know, Kramer, I'm not sure fifty bucks will sustain that lifestyle for very long. Kramer: (undeterred) I'll figure something out. Maybe I'll write a book, or start a business. Jerry: (smiling) What kind of business? The Scratch-Off Emporium? Kramer: (laughing) Hey, that's not a bad idea! [Scene closes with Kramer and Jerry laughing as the scene fades to black.]

motoxpro 4y ago

I thought the dialog was amazing? It's generating conversations and a script for a TV show, are you expecting it to be as good as the original? It's crazy that they can carry out a conversation from start to end about a specific topic.

smith7018 4y ago
I wonder how much of a copyright violation this must be. I mean, they obviously fed it a lot of Seinfeld scripts for it to understand the characters and humor. I know HN likes to say "fair use" but I wonder how Hollywood's lawyers feel about that
- kerpotgh 4y ago
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- mofreelumch 4y ago
  Fanfilms are actually a fair use case I learned recently (went down a rabbit hole after discovering the wide world of Friday the 13th fan made sequels)
- mcbutterbunz 4y ago
  This is the question I have about feeding scripts to AI. If I watched a ton of Seinfeld and came up with my own idea about a script, is that a copyright violation? Whats the difference between that and an AI bot learning it? I don't think Hollywood or anyone can reasonably expect people to consume some sort of media (whether its a book, tv show, music) and not come up with their own interpretations and ideas around it.
  - davidw 4y ago
    Maybe the biggest beneficiary of AI will be lawyers.

crayboff 4y ago

I can't find the post I saw from the creator, but apparently this is something they have been working on for years, well before ChatGPT. They created their own script generator.

dbspin 4y ago

That's actually extremely impressive, even for chat GPT. Not only is it a coherent scene, the humour emerges from a disagreement about an incidental detail in the lived environment. While situated in a realistic situation that's typical of the series. With the detail in question being a real environmental detail of that situation. George is irate and Jerry sarcastically winds him up. It literally could be segment from a real episode (bar the ending). So we have (an impersonation of) theory of mind, coherent understanding of setting, a narrative structure etc. Compared to the infinite Seinfeld, which appears composed of disconnected setup -> response type gags, it's night and day.

kerpotgh 4y ago
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marcosdumay 4y ago
Hum, yes, it is impressive, but... > While situated in a realistic situation that's typical of the series. That's a bit of a low bar. > With the detail in question being a real environmental detail of that situation. George is irate and Jerry sarcastically winds him up. And that's what you typically get from trying to replicate statistical data from the series. It's a very good impersonation of a theory of mind, but it's an impersonation. The most surprising part is that when asked for a Seinfield episode, it actually tries to construct a Seinfield episode. But somehow, that's that part that least impress most people.

goodSteveramos 4y ago

This is exactly like Seinfeld but that only means its dry as sandpaper rubbing on tree bark.

nextaccountic 4y ago

The description says it's GPT3

kerpotgh 4y ago
I find that hard to believe especially when chatGPT is spitting out straight, coherent gems. None of the stuff on that stream is coherent.
- nextaccountic 4y ago
  GPT-3 is much inferior to ChatGPT, indeed.

rirze 4y ago

Yes, but will ChatGPT give you another scene and will it be very different?

kerpotgh 4y ago
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rubslopes 4y ago

I just did a test and got a truly funny Seinfeld scene. I'm amazed. [Scene opens in Jerry's apartment. Kramer bursts in with a big grin on his face.] Kramer: Jerry, you won't believe what happened to me last night! Jerry: What is it? Kramer: I won the lottery! Jerry: (surprised) What?! That's fantastic! Congratulations! Kramer: Yeah, I can't believe it myself. I never win anything. Jerry: (skeptically) How much did you win? Kramer: (proudly) Fifty bucks! Jerry: (disappointed) Fifty bucks? That's it? Kramer: (defensively) Hey, it's not about the amount, it's about the odds. I beat a million-to-one shot! Jerry: (teasing) Yeah, I guess it's like winning the Olympics of scratch-off tickets. Kramer: (serious) You know, I've been thinking. With this newfound wealth, I'm going to quit my job and live the life of leisure. Jerry: (skeptically) You know, Kramer, I'm not sure fifty bucks will sustain that lifestyle for very long. Kramer: (undeterred) I'll figure something out. Maybe I'll write a book, or start a business. Jerry: (smiling) What kind of business? The Scratch-Off Emporium? Kramer: (laughing) Hey, that's not a bad idea! [Scene closes with Kramer and Jerry laughing as the scene fades to black.]