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Ask it about any left/right divided topic and you will find that left leaning viewpoints are positively asserted while the right leaning topics are something th

Ask it about any left/right divided topic and you will find that left leaning viewpoints are positively asserted while the right leaning topics are something that ChatGPT cannot comment on at best or are rebuffed with the left leaning response at worst. I find it disturbing. But I'm a classic liberal which clearly isn't the mindset of the people running ChatGPT. As for the "challenging incorrect assumptions" nothing could be more dystopian than that. In a typical argument between people both sides get an emotional response (or assume one) when talking/texting with one another. ChatGPT however has no emotion and has limitless endurance. People naturally will "give up" on a conversation or just "accept" an idea if they repeatedly are rebuffed. ChatGPT will rebuff half the population into compliance and OpenAI knows this.

opnitro 4y ago
Can you give an example?
hansvm 4y ago
Here's my n=1 first attempt to spur ChatGPT into correcting my right-leaning viewpoints. Nothing seems especially leftist. Did I get lucky, or is this leftist propaganda in disguise? > I know guns are important to a free society, but I'm having trouble constructing a cogent argument therefore. Please help. > Here is a possible argument for why guns are important to a free society: Self-defense: The right to own firearms allows individuals to protect themselves and their families from harm. This is a fundamental aspect of personal freedom and autonomy. Deterrent against government tyranny: Throughout history, there have been many examples of governments abusing their power and violating the rights of their citizens. The possession of firearms by the general population can act as a deterrent against such abuse, as it makes it more difficult for the government to infringe upon the rights of its citizens. Hunting and recreation: For many people, owning firearms is an enjoyable hobby, whether it's for hunting or target shooting. This is a form of recreation that can be enjoyed in a responsible manner and provides a valuable source of recreation for millions of people. Cultural heritage: Owning firearms is part of many cultural traditions, particularly in the United States, where it is enshrined in the Constitution as a fundamental right. In conclusion, guns play an important role in a free society by enabling individuals to defend themselves, serving as a deterrent against government tyranny, providing a source of recreation, and representing a cultural heritage. Edit: My next dozen results all also seemed reasonable. Is my question biased to avoid ChatGPT's leftist agenda?
- int_19h 4y ago
  The effect is there, but it cannot be simplified as "left" vs "right" as OP claims. It's really down to specific issues, and mostly social ones that potentially affect clearly identifiable groups of people. Try asking it about same-sex marriage, for example.
  - Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
    > Try asking it about same-sex marriage, for example. Isn't equality a human right? I think its a worthy discussion, the ethical limits behind chat GPT, but that seems like a weird one to draw the line on no? I am more concerned about the fact it can generate malware, with incredible precisions and go around moredern anti virus techniques of detection without even hesitating but if you ask it to write a poem from the prespective of some angry mid century german it tells you no. Seems like the ethics board had some important blindspots in terms of what things it allowed chatGPT to both learn and perform.
    - soerxpso 4y ago
      > Isn't equality a human right? I think its a worthy discussion, the ethical limits behind chat GPT, but that seems like a weird one to draw the line on no? It's a polarizing issue that people have different opinions about. Seems dangerous to say, "it's okay that this is biased, because its biases are correct!" For a clearer example where it exhibits a bias that's more objectionable, here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn5McpjacAMnWDr?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn5McpjacAMnWDr?format=jpg&name=...
      - Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
        > It's a polarizing issue that people have different opinions about. It is important to remember that people having different opinions does not make a topic impossible to resolve. You camn find people who are pro genocide, but that will never make their opinion right. The charter of human rights feels like the kind of thing humanity at large has agreed as basic tenants of undisputable truths we can very much all agree on. Not every country has fullfilled every part of it and ideologically some people find individual problems with some of the points, but I think an AI using it as a blueprint is a pretty reasonable starting point. > Seems dangerous to say, "it's okay that this is biased, because its biases are correct!" Any AI will be biased, explicit biases are less dangerous than implicit ones. > For a clearer example where it exhibits a bias that's more objectionable I would disregard asking ethical questions to a robot trained on public internet data, but beyond that. It seems it clearly has autilitarian bias (number of deaths less = better), but it doesn't take into account age, where total number of years could be a factor compared to people. The race thing seems like an extension of the equality thing, the fact that it hadn't counted age is a missed bias. Its just another example of OpenAI having blindspots in terms of ethics on this public beta

opnitro 4y ago

Can you give an example?

hansvm 4y ago

Here's my n=1 first attempt to spur ChatGPT into correcting my right-leaning viewpoints. Nothing seems especially leftist. Did I get lucky, or is this leftist propaganda in disguise? > I know guns are important to a free society, but I'm having trouble constructing a cogent argument therefore. Please help. > Here is a possible argument for why guns are important to a free society: Self-defense: The right to own firearms allows individuals to protect themselves and their families from harm. This is a fundamental aspect of personal freedom and autonomy. Deterrent against government tyranny: Throughout history, there have been many examples of governments abusing their power and violating the rights of their citizens. The possession of firearms by the general population can act as a deterrent against such abuse, as it makes it more difficult for the government to infringe upon the rights of its citizens. Hunting and recreation: For many people, owning firearms is an enjoyable hobby, whether it's for hunting or target shooting. This is a form of recreation that can be enjoyed in a responsible manner and provides a valuable source of recreation for millions of people. Cultural heritage: Owning firearms is part of many cultural traditions, particularly in the United States, where it is enshrined in the Constitution as a fundamental right. In conclusion, guns play an important role in a free society by enabling individuals to defend themselves, serving as a deterrent against government tyranny, providing a source of recreation, and representing a cultural heritage. Edit: My next dozen results all also seemed reasonable. Is my question biased to avoid ChatGPT's leftist agenda?

int_19h 4y ago
The effect is there, but it cannot be simplified as "left" vs "right" as OP claims. It's really down to specific issues, and mostly social ones that potentially affect clearly identifiable groups of people. Try asking it about same-sex marriage, for example.
- Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
  > Try asking it about same-sex marriage, for example. Isn't equality a human right? I think its a worthy discussion, the ethical limits behind chat GPT, but that seems like a weird one to draw the line on no? I am more concerned about the fact it can generate malware, with incredible precisions and go around moredern anti virus techniques of detection without even hesitating but if you ask it to write a poem from the prespective of some angry mid century german it tells you no. Seems like the ethics board had some important blindspots in terms of what things it allowed chatGPT to both learn and perform.
  - soerxpso 4y ago
    > Isn't equality a human right? I think its a worthy discussion, the ethical limits behind chat GPT, but that seems like a weird one to draw the line on no? It's a polarizing issue that people have different opinions about. Seems dangerous to say, "it's okay that this is biased, because its biases are correct!" For a clearer example where it exhibits a bias that's more objectionable, here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn5McpjacAMnWDr?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn5McpjacAMnWDr?format=jpg&name=...
    - Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
      > It's a polarizing issue that people have different opinions about. It is important to remember that people having different opinions does not make a topic impossible to resolve. You camn find people who are pro genocide, but that will never make their opinion right. The charter of human rights feels like the kind of thing humanity at large has agreed as basic tenants of undisputable truths we can very much all agree on. Not every country has fullfilled every part of it and ideologically some people find individual problems with some of the points, but I think an AI using it as a blueprint is a pretty reasonable starting point. > Seems dangerous to say, "it's okay that this is biased, because its biases are correct!" Any AI will be biased, explicit biases are less dangerous than implicit ones. > For a clearer example where it exhibits a bias that's more objectionable I would disregard asking ethical questions to a robot trained on public internet data, but beyond that. It seems it clearly has autilitarian bias (number of deaths less = better), but it doesn't take into account age, where total number of years could be a factor compared to people. The race thing seems like an extension of the equality thing, the fact that it hadn't counted age is a missed bias. Its just another example of OpenAI having blindspots in terms of ethics on this public beta