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> ...on my home screen on my Pixel 4... > Things like fluid scrolling... Well, yeah. It's not exactly apples to Apples to compare your 2022 iPhone to an Andro

> ...on my home screen on my Pixel 4... > Things like fluid scrolling... Well, yeah. It's not exactly apples to Apples to compare your 2022 iPhone to an Android phone from 2019. On my Z-Flip 4, Tusky has no problem hitting 120Hz scroll. That being said, I can't disagree with his larger point when it comes to many commercial apps - design teams are all iOS and ship designs that aren't Android-first or even Android-adjacent. Android developers often end up fighting (and losing) to design teams which only care about one platform

thrtythreeforty 4y ago
> not exactly apples to Apples to compare your 2022 iPhone to an Android phone from 2019 I kind of disagree. If you can't make a UI run fluidly on a phone from 4 years ago, you might be doing it wrong. UIs have tight timing budgets, true, but computers are _plenty_ fast enough to keep up. Android has more overhead than iOS and it shows. I put up with Android because I can run my own code on my own hardware. But I'm increasingly looking at iOS favorably.
- anaisbetts 4y ago
  Keeping your frame times low is one thing, but it's not fair to compare a 60Hz display to a 120Hz one
  - MBCook 4y ago
    He is talking about frame pacing/skipping/hitching issues not 120 vs 60 Hz (confirmed in a reply below). The iPhone was 60 Hz until the 13 in 2021. It still felt perfectly smooth.
hellisothers 4y ago
An iPhone from 2019 (which my wife has) still scrolls very smoothly. I assume he isn’t talking about refresh rate, he is talking About jerkily scrolling because the developer is making blocking calls on the main thread or re-rendering already visible elements. I also experience this on my Android test device.
- jgruber 4y ago
  Correct. I am not talking about frame rate.
  - howinteresting 4y ago
    Well, I am. If you buy a $600 Android phone today, you'll get much smoother scrolling than if you buy a $600 Apple phone today. Your assertion is just false when it comes to phones available today.
detaro 4y ago
Tusky is just fine on my 2017 mid-range Android phone...
- alexbrooks 4y ago
  Some people just can't see it.
benced 4y ago
I have a 2019 iPhone (11 Pro!) and the scrolling is perfect. Battery about to die though.

thrtythreeforty 4y ago

> not exactly apples to Apples to compare your 2022 iPhone to an Android phone from 2019 I kind of disagree. If you can't make a UI run fluidly on a phone from 4 years ago, you might be doing it wrong. UIs have tight timing budgets, true, but computers are _plenty_ fast enough to keep up. Android has more overhead than iOS and it shows. I put up with Android because I can run my own code on my own hardware. But I'm increasingly looking at iOS favorably.

anaisbetts 4y ago
Keeping your frame times low is one thing, but it's not fair to compare a 60Hz display to a 120Hz one
- MBCook 4y ago
  He is talking about frame pacing/skipping/hitching issues not 120 vs 60 Hz (confirmed in a reply below). The iPhone was 60 Hz until the 13 in 2021. It still felt perfectly smooth.

hellisothers 4y ago

An iPhone from 2019 (which my wife has) still scrolls very smoothly. I assume he isn’t talking about refresh rate, he is talking About jerkily scrolling because the developer is making blocking calls on the main thread or re-rendering already visible elements. I also experience this on my Android test device.

jgruber 4y ago
Correct. I am not talking about frame rate.
- howinteresting 4y ago
  Well, I am. If you buy a $600 Android phone today, you'll get much smoother scrolling than if you buy a $600 Apple phone today. Your assertion is just false when it comes to phones available today.

detaro 4y ago

Tusky is just fine on my 2017 mid-range Android phone...

alexbrooks 4y ago
Some people just can't see it.

benced 4y ago

I have a 2019 iPhone (11 Pro!) and the scrolling is perfect. Battery about to die though.