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> And there the typical 35 year aggressive attitude I have to deal with daily. I'm actually 29 but sure. > Your joking right in thinking that no communication

by atraac 4y ago

> And there the typical 35 year aggressive attitude I have to deal with daily. I'm actually 29 but sure. > Your joking right in thinking that no communication is loss via email? I would argue that more details are actually _preserved_ when communicating via email rather than face to face. If you cannot properly communicate via written text then yeah, of course any kind of written channel will be worse. I actually like to have everything written down, I can refer to it at any point in the future and if I need someone's immediate attention I simply call. Also f*k emails, that needs to die. There's a reason we have multitudes of different kinds of software for project management, using email to discuss important details is counter productive and obscures information from people who aren't invloved at the time. > Team, zoom meetings take away facial expressions and as someone with social blindness it makes my job harder to engage. Why so hostile? But that is again, a YOU issue. I might come off as hostile because stating something that is true to you as a universal truth - that hybrid work environment is better, annoys me a lot and I'm arguing that it's not. It might be better for YOU, but not for everyone, especially not for people who actually want to be full remote. > I want to come home and know for certain there is no essence of work present. I work from my bedroom and my work does not interweave with my personal life whatsoever. Your point of view reeks of opinions of someone who needs the office to be productive and was forced to work from home and can't handle it. It's perfectly fine, I know people like that too, but stating that wfh bad, we need the office is... really one sided. > Its always "WFH is amazing" when no one takes in to account that it doesn't work for others. But everyone does take it into account. I don't think I've seen a single comment here that said 'everyone should work from home just because I say so'. Let people be fully remote, let people go to the office if they want to. I can guarantee you that majority of people won't though. > I'm a SysAdmin and like being on premises of the hardware Again, that's great, go to the office then? Did I ever write anywhere that you shouldn't be able to? I work with people who meet regularly in the office 8 hour drive away from me and yet I don't feel excluded at all.

doublerabbit 4y ago
Good for you. This is really moot. 29, the age fits the angst.. I'm not saying WFH is bad. It should be allowed, but I disagree that it should not be a full working week. To those who prefer to work in the office, who communicate better in the office. Should be taken in to consideration. Sorry that my brain operates differently to yours. When you start to throw personal insults, "ITS A YOU" problem those make your points very weak and blind sided. If I have a problem, I fix it but the problem isn't me. We both have different jobs, it works for you and going in to the office for me. Which is what I do. Hobbies outside work? I have plenty. Your angry, and I don't know why, you sure your not an disgruntled 35 year old? I'm disgruntled at 33.
- orwin 4y ago
  I don't want to pile on you much, but I think both you and your team aren't equipped for remote work and could benefit from a better management and leadership. I changed job very recently, to a full remote team, it was the best onboarding of my life.
  - doublerabbit 4y ago
    My team is fantastically equipped. The company provides, and after expressing my concerns in a team meeting today after I had posted my grunt, they acknowledge and couple of the seniors are going to come in a few times a day week to get me though the learning gap. I am a contractor and have a large responsibility riding on this job. I am counting on being successful to get me to the next level in life, and the company. This is my major lifeline but I can't do it alone nor is WFH appropriate for the situation. I'm under NDA so I can't say what. WFH is nice I understand. For those with kids, animals, distances. I fully get it. You should earn the privilege rather then have it handed to you on a plate. WFH is lazy. It frustrates me, its new, its nice, its popular. Its just been thrown that everyone enjoys wfh. My feelings are that feel the 15years of working with older adults, in many jobs, learning the office ropes of each; that it will become a great shame that interpersonal social skills are going to end up lost to distant remote, communication. Yes the office place could be better, WFH has it advantages but its not the holy grail. Its a silver bullet that bridges the gap for the time being.

by atraac 4y ago

doublerabbit 4y ago

Good for you. This is really moot. 29, the age fits the angst.. I'm not saying WFH is bad. It should be allowed, but I disagree that it should not be a full working week. To those who prefer to work in the office, who communicate better in the office. Should be taken in to consideration. Sorry that my brain operates differently to yours. When you start to throw personal insults, "ITS A YOU" problem those make your points very weak and blind sided. If I have a problem, I fix it but the problem isn't me. We both have different jobs, it works for you and going in to the office for me. Which is what I do. Hobbies outside work? I have plenty. Your angry, and I don't know why, you sure your not an disgruntled 35 year old? I'm disgruntled at 33.

orwin 4y ago
I don't want to pile on you much, but I think both you and your team aren't equipped for remote work and could benefit from a better management and leadership. I changed job very recently, to a full remote team, it was the best onboarding of my life.
- doublerabbit 4y ago
  My team is fantastically equipped. The company provides, and after expressing my concerns in a team meeting today after I had posted my grunt, they acknowledge and couple of the seniors are going to come in a few times a day week to get me though the learning gap. I am a contractor and have a large responsibility riding on this job. I am counting on being successful to get me to the next level in life, and the company. This is my major lifeline but I can't do it alone nor is WFH appropriate for the situation. I'm under NDA so I can't say what. WFH is nice I understand. For those with kids, animals, distances. I fully get it. You should earn the privilege rather then have it handed to you on a plate. WFH is lazy. It frustrates me, its new, its nice, its popular. Its just been thrown that everyone enjoys wfh. My feelings are that feel the 15years of working with older adults, in many jobs, learning the office ropes of each; that it will become a great shame that interpersonal social skills are going to end up lost to distant remote, communication. Yes the office place could be better, WFH has it advantages but its not the holy grail. Its a silver bullet that bridges the gap for the time being.