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PET containers are so widely used that if there were an actual problem with them, people would be dying--or at least ill--in millions.
by tuatoru 4y ago
PET containers are so widely used that if there were an actual problem with them, people would be dying--or at least ill--in millions.
- chrismeller 4y agoI think you’re over-exaggerating the impact to dismiss the premise. Endocrine disrupters don’t generally lead to death, they lead to developmental and hormone disorders, ADHD, etc. All of these things are on the uptick.
- TheSpiceIsLife 4y agoTalk about lacking nuance. Health isn't binary: alive or dead. Something like one in three people will get cancer at some point. It's possible endocrine disruptors contribute to that rare.
- lazide 4y agoSomething kills us eventually. Heart attacks, accidents, violence, disease, cancer, etc. Reduce one major cause (violence) or two or three (accidents, disease), and voila - the other elements take over their portions of the pie. That an all the nuke testing fallout, tire dust, random nasty crap, etc.
- withinboredom 4y agoI don’t know about you, but I’d rather die healthy at a ripe old age than at 40 from some stupid plastic.
- lazide 4y agoThat’s the opposite of what is going on. Would you rather die at 40 from a poorly designed car steering wheel that impales you in a 20mph accident, or get machine gunned in a trench when you’re 19, or live to 80 and die from an old age disease - like cancer, heart disease, or Alzheimer’s? Because the only thing that’s inevitable is it will eventually be something. And the stats show the current set of active ‘somethings’ at play. Plastic or not may move one of the needles a few percent one way or another, but unless there is an epidemic of choking-on-plastic-bottles, it’s in the noise.
- withinboredom 4y agoI wouldn’t put it past the next generation to come up with a bottle swallowing challenge… It will be something, I’m not arguing that. It comes down to preferences and our collective ability to pick one to stop from happening. Eventually, we will all die from old age or accidents. I don’t see that happening in anyone’s current lifetime though.
- lazide 4y agoPeople have dealt with far worse than what we’ve got going on now, and most of them still died of old age and accidents - depending on what you define old age and accidents being of course. Cancer survival rates and overall incidence rates are pretty good in the US, and frankly seem to have zero correspondence with use of plastic. It’s also predominantly older folks. I’ve seen data that indicates it’s nearly certain for a man to get prostate cancer if he gets old enough, for instance. Denmark and Hungary being near the top of the list - https://www.wcrf.org/cancer-trends/global-cancer-data-by-country/ https://www.wcrf.org/cancer-trends/global-cancer-data-by-cou...
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- amelius 4y agoSome kinds of disease are more prevalent since the introduction of PET ... Not saying there is causation, but denying it is equally problematic.
- lazide 4y agoWe’ve also generally become incredible sedentary during almost the exact same time frame.
- hinkley 4y ago40% of us are obese. Lots of chronic illnesses going on as well.
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