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IMO we need a mass-adopted digital signature solution using biometric identifiers such that publishing an article, or even a comment, can be signed by and only

IMO we need a mass-adopted digital signature solution using biometric identifiers such that publishing an article, or even a comment, can be signed by and only by a biological human.

Someone1234 4y ago
You want to ban privacy?
- standardly 4y ago
  Proving you are a human and not a computer doesn't have to publicly reveal a single thing about you (other than the crypto signature). Think of it like an SSL cert for a person rather than a server. I'm purely spitballing man. It's a problem someone will eventually have to come up with a solution for and I think we already have the tools.
  - GMoromisato 4y ago
    The problem is that one can't be trusted to sign their own work--otherwise they could sign AI-generated text. This only works if a trusted human signs your work after watching you generate it.
    - standardly 4y ago
      Easy. We just need an AI that serves as a public notary. Wait a minute.. It really is an interesting problem to think about. The other commenter pointed out you could just sign an AI text - I see all the issues, but my gut feeling tells me there is an elegant solution somewhere.
khyryk 4y ago
Any ideas on how the "only by" would work? I'm not seeing a way around pasting generated text and signing it as one's own work. Proof of work solutions would have to have a high cost for anyone to care, otherwise there would be bots "proving" the work of writing an essay by generating it in phases like a human would edit drafts.
- standardly 4y ago
  This is the really first time I've thought about this, so uh... No, no ideas. One's identity would need verified concurrent with creation of a text. I am not really satisfied with the idea of a specialized word processor or input device that does biometric validation, I'd rather have a specific, standardized protocol. I wonder if this is already deemed impossible, or if someone is working on the problem.

IMO we need a mass-adopted digital signature solution using biometric identifiers such that publishing an article, or even a comment, can be signed by and only by a biological human.

Someone1234 4y ago

You want to ban privacy?

standardly 4y ago
Proving you are a human and not a computer doesn't have to publicly reveal a single thing about you (other than the crypto signature). Think of it like an SSL cert for a person rather than a server. I'm purely spitballing man. It's a problem someone will eventually have to come up with a solution for and I think we already have the tools.
- GMoromisato 4y ago
  The problem is that one can't be trusted to sign their own work--otherwise they could sign AI-generated text. This only works if a trusted human signs your work after watching you generate it.
  - standardly 4y ago
    Easy. We just need an AI that serves as a public notary. Wait a minute.. It really is an interesting problem to think about. The other commenter pointed out you could just sign an AI text - I see all the issues, but my gut feeling tells me there is an elegant solution somewhere.

khyryk 4y ago

Any ideas on how the "only by" would work? I'm not seeing a way around pasting generated text and signing it as one's own work. Proof of work solutions would have to have a high cost for anyone to care, otherwise there would be bots "proving" the work of writing an essay by generating it in phases like a human would edit drafts.

standardly 4y ago
This is the really first time I've thought about this, so uh... No, no ideas. One's identity would need verified concurrent with creation of a text. I am not really satisfied with the idea of a specialized word processor or input device that does biometric validation, I'd rather have a specific, standardized protocol. I wonder if this is already deemed impossible, or if someone is working on the problem.