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It seems like you were in fact brought into this world with the expectation that you make your own way and provide for yourself. Unless it’s your expectation th

It seems like you were in fact brought into this world with the expectation that you make your own way and provide for yourself. Unless it’s your expectation that others do that for you or your parents have already provided for you

bobkazamakis 4y ago
Could billionaires just pay taxes please?
- gretch 4y ago
  1) they should 2) they do: elon paid ~$10B in 2021 https://reason.com/2022/04/26/no-elon-musk-didnt-pay-a-3-27-percent-tax-rate/ https://reason.com/2022/04/26/no-elon-musk-didnt-pay-a-3-27-... 3) if all billionaires in the US liquidated absolutely all personal wealth and evenly distributed it, what would happen? 720 billionaires * 10B average wealth / 300M US population = 24k USD per person 1 time payment Covid stimulus was like, 9k ish depending on your bracketing? So just imagine 2 or 3 covid payments. The conclusion should be that it's not going to change the fabric of how life in America functions. It's certainly not gonna grant GP commenter the ability to chill and paint for the rest of their lives.
  - balderdash 4y ago
    Kind of depressing to see someone downvoted for stating the facts.
    - granshaw 4y ago
      Yeah the “boo capitalism” and “F all rich people” rhetoric has really gotten tiresome
  - serverholic 4y ago
    Now do the same for corporations. I'm sure it'll come out to more than that per person.
    - balderdash 4y ago
      How’s that work though? The billionaires wealth is mostly corporate wealth so that’s already included. Unless you are advocating expropriating corporate wealth from retail shareholders, public pension funds, and foreign owners?!
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toomuchtodo 4y ago
I really like this comment because it says the quiet part out loud (like an unintended hot mic), the expectation that folks are going to kick out kids and it's entirely on the kids, existing through no choice of their own, to be subjected to a system that is built to extract from them decades of output until they're able to retire (if at all) or die. "It is this way, has been this way, and you will like it or leave." With that said, it should come as no shock when various rejections of this idea take hold. How could one rationalize not attempting to critically re-evaluate the situation? What is all this progress for? I can't imagine why the birth rate is falling in certain places so precipitously. /s We tell parents they should have expensive kids for the good of society. We tell kids they have to grow up and support themselves over a lifetime because that's the deal.
- jimbokun 4y ago
  shrugs You can critically re-evaluate until the cows come home. Won't materially change anything. I miss old school labor, or at least how they're described in the history books. Forcefully changing things for the better. Now we have a bunch of people critically evaluating everything on social media, expecting things to change as if they asked to speak with society's manager, expecting them to fix it.

bobkazamakis 4y ago

Could billionaires just pay taxes please?

gretch 4y ago
1) they should 2) they do: elon paid ~$10B in 2021 https://reason.com/2022/04/26/no-elon-musk-didnt-pay-a-3-27-percent-tax-rate/ https://reason.com/2022/04/26/no-elon-musk-didnt-pay-a-3-27-... 3) if all billionaires in the US liquidated absolutely all personal wealth and evenly distributed it, what would happen? 720 billionaires * 10B average wealth / 300M US population = 24k USD per person 1 time payment Covid stimulus was like, 9k ish depending on your bracketing? So just imagine 2 or 3 covid payments. The conclusion should be that it's not going to change the fabric of how life in America functions. It's certainly not gonna grant GP commenter the ability to chill and paint for the rest of their lives.
- balderdash 4y ago
  Kind of depressing to see someone downvoted for stating the facts.
  - granshaw 4y ago
    Yeah the “boo capitalism” and “F all rich people” rhetoric has really gotten tiresome
- serverholic 4y ago
  Now do the same for corporations. I'm sure it'll come out to more than that per person.
  - balderdash 4y ago
    How’s that work though? The billionaires wealth is mostly corporate wealth so that’s already included. Unless you are advocating expropriating corporate wealth from retail shareholders, public pension funds, and foreign owners?!
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toomuchtodo 4y ago

I really like this comment because it says the quiet part out loud (like an unintended hot mic), the expectation that folks are going to kick out kids and it's entirely on the kids, existing through no choice of their own, to be subjected to a system that is built to extract from them decades of output until they're able to retire (if at all) or die. "It is this way, has been this way, and you will like it or leave." With that said, it should come as no shock when various rejections of this idea take hold. How could one rationalize not attempting to critically re-evaluate the situation? What is all this progress for? I can't imagine why the birth rate is falling in certain places so precipitously. /s We tell parents they should have expensive kids for the good of society. We tell kids they have to grow up and support themselves over a lifetime because that's the deal.

jimbokun 4y ago
shrugs You can critically re-evaluate until the cows come home. Won't materially change anything. I miss old school labor, or at least how they're described in the history books. Forcefully changing things for the better. Now we have a bunch of people critically evaluating everything on social media, expecting things to change as if they asked to speak with society's manager, expecting them to fix it.