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I think it's more likely because there are very few kids playing outside in urban areas. There are kids in the Pearl and the South Waterfront in Portland. It
by hcurtiss 4y ago
I think it's more likely because there are very few kids playing outside in urban areas. There are kids in the Pearl and the South Waterfront in Portland. It is rare to see them play outside, much more rare to see them playing in the street. On the other hand, kids playing catch or riding their bikes on suburban streets is a daily occurrence in my neighborhood. That's definitely going to drive up interactions with cars, but the motor vehicle rates you cite above are still exceedingly low.
- HDThoreaun 4y agoThat's just not true though. There are tons of kids playing in the street here in chicago. Maybe you just don't live near many children?
- mrep 4y agoReally? I grew up in the suburbs of chicago and we didn't really play in the streets. We played basketball in one of our parents driveways or at the local park and played football in one of our parents front/back yards or at the local park. Now I live in Lake View during the summer and I haven't really seen any kids playing in the streets either. Where are you at in Chicago and what do they play if I may ask?
- tptacek 4y agoI'm in Oak Park, just across Austin from Chicago, and kids play in the streets all the time. Basketball and baseball, mostly. The comment upthread suggests kids aren't even riding bikes in the streets. I mean, come on.
- hcurtiss 4y agoKids play outside on the sidewalk/street in urban Chicago? I've never been to Chicago, but my wife went to school at University of Chicago, and she says she never saw any such thing. The area around the university is pretty rough, but still. And I'm in downtown Portland all the time, and no, there are no kids playing on the sidewalk/street. Not even in the little urban parks, or at least very, very few.
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- tptacek 4y agoWhat's "urban Chicago"? The loop? Kids do not play on the street in the loop. This is what the loop looks like: https://www.google.com/maps/place/jackson+and+lasalle+chicago/@41.8781484,-87.6318146,3a,75y,268.91h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sClednYDB0r5i6-h6rNNxzw!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x880e2cbc4c686ba5:0xe43db217f2542b3f?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj30ubXx_P8AhUSg4kEHTHkAL4QxB16BAgPEAM https://www.google.com/maps/place/jackson+and+lasalle+chicag... Most of Chicago doesn't look like the loop. It's a big city. The University of Chicago is in Hyde Park, 10 minutes south of the loop. It's one of the safest neighborhoods in the city. This is what Hyde Park looks like: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7995114,-87.5981733,3a,75y,193.87h,95.26t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxlzo0m5sP6AKyxo3-pGbCA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dxlzo0m5sP6AKyxo3-pGbCA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D108.0558%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7995114,-87.5981733,3a,75y,1... Kids play on the sidewalks and in the streets in Chicago all the time. I mean: of course they do? It's a city of 2.7 million people. Did you think all the kids were just kept inside all the time?
- hcurtiss 4y agoThat second link sure looks to me like the R-1 developments the activists seem upset about. Yes, I would expect kids play there.
- tptacek 4y agoThat second link is what most of Chicago looks like. See for yourself: this site will generate totally random addresses in Chicago, and you can just copy them to Google Maps to see the street view. https://il.postcodebase.com/random_address_city/CHICAGO https://il.postcodebase.com/random_address_city/CHICAGO
- hcurtiss 4y ago