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High rises are for people who aren't light sleepers, don't mind hearing music and noise in adjacent walls or above or below, are tolerant of parties and general
by mancerayder 4y ago
High rises are for people who aren't light sleepers, don't mind hearing music and noise in adjacent walls or above or below, are tolerant of parties and generally sociable.
Guess who fits that demographic? Young single people and young couples who go out. The average middle age crank needs a house without shared walls and space.
There are individual preferences at play here. No one chooses a high rise, it's just more affordable. The exception is amenities, doormen, other services.
- epistasis 4y agoThis is absolutely incorrect, and sound dampening is easy to solve, and to write into code if cities actually cared about it.
- option 4y agoit is easy to solve but never is solved somehow (judging this based on living in several European cities)
- mrguyorama 4y agoNobody forces a builder to put in sound deadening, and they won't experience the suffering of hearing their neighbors, and they won't lose profit because pretty much by definition they are only building in places with excess demand so they can still charge pretty pennies for junk. So of course it's one of the first things to go. Everyone always chooses to pinch pennies instead of do the right thing.
- crooked-v 4y agoThere are plenty of high-density buildings that don't require 'light sleepers'. I live in one right now. The only sound I hear from other units is if we both have windows open; otherwise it's dead quiet to the point that I had to put in some rugs to muffle echoes from walking around on the tiled floors.
- mancerayder 4y agoI live in the most modern and luxurious of modern luxury buildings and while most people don't complain about noise, I'm jolted awake by door slamming in the hallway, I can hear parties two floors up and music (bass specifically) travels effortlessly through all the modern concrete floor and non-concrete walls all the same. It depends more on the neighbors than the construction. Nothing will stop a modern subwoofer. The uncertainty around neighbors and the obligation to be tolerant is why single family houses are preferable to some people. Barking dogs when owners are away are another joy of apartment living.
- crooked-v 4y agoIt sounds like where you live isn't actually a luxury building... it's just an expensive but cheaply built building that was labeled 'luxury' to try and justify the price tag. The solution here isn't to pretend that high-density buildings aren't needed, because they absolutely are; rather, it's to apply and enforce reasonable standards around noise insulation in shared-wall units, and to reduce the time and expense of the permitting and planning process in general so that there isn't as much motivation to cut corners to save money on the back end.
- veec_cas_tant 4y agoThere is an epidemic of "luxury" units that are really just poorly constructed buildings with a fancy stove and granite countertop. Modern buildings will have noise leakage via doors and windows for obvious reasons, but should not be transmitting anything but extreme noise through floors and walls. If you can really hear noises two floors away, I'm guessing your building wasn't built with noise in mind OR the party goers have blasted their eardrums too many times. Regardless, I'm surprised the landlords haven't handled this already if they are charging luxury prices.
- dntrkv 4y agoI've lived in many homes and a couple high-rises. The noise isolation in the high-rises was miles ahead of that in the homes. I'm guessing the concrete construction is a pretty big factor in this.