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Unfortunately Fedora has been making a lot of similar decisions to Ubuntu lately, although it's still better IMO. I'd say coming from Ubuntu, Mint is probably

by maxk42 4y ago

Unfortunately Fedora has been making a lot of similar decisions to Ubuntu lately, although it's still better IMO. I'd say coming from Ubuntu, Mint is probably a lower learning curve anyway.

bloopernova 4y ago
Could you please give some examples of those similar decisions? I'm eager to find any evidence of the Fedora admins as bad actors.
- prophesi 4y ago
  My only complaint is that the switch to Wireplumber caused a lot of audio issues on my machine until I reverted back to PulseAudio. I could also see people not wanting Wayland by default, though that has been working fine for me and the software I use. I've only been using Fedora for 2 years, but apart from those two decisions, it's been a lot more stable than my time with Ubuntu.
  - gtirloni 4y ago
    > I could also see people not wanting Wayland by default It takes a single line change in /etc/gdm/custom.conf to disable it.
    - jerryzh 4y ago
      Even easier, at login window you can select, and then it will remember your choice.
- johnny22 4y ago
  I haven't seen a decision made in the past that would be relevant, but there is one for future fedora releases https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/269 https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/269 about installing certain apps as flatpaks rather than rpms by default. These would be fedora based flatpaks rather than from flathub. It does not actually say how it interacts with existing rpms or whether said rpms will continue to exist or be maintained in the future. I would say it's too early to get up in arms about just yet. Me personally, I agree with this approach, but a lot of other people clearly won't.
yoyohello13 4y ago
What decisions? Fedora is my daily driver and I follow Fedora dev pretty closely, so far they haven’t done anything like Ubuntu. Maybe the custom Flathub repo? But that’s a requirement for them since they can’t host proprietary software for legal reasons.
- microtonal 4y ago
  As far as I understand, the next Fedora release will stop masking most of Flathub by default.

by maxk42 4y ago

Unfortunately Fedora has been making a lot of similar decisions to Ubuntu lately, although it's still better IMO. I'd say coming from Ubuntu, Mint is probably a lower learning curve anyway.

bloopernova 4y ago

Could you please give some examples of those similar decisions? I'm eager to find any evidence of the Fedora admins as bad actors.

prophesi 4y ago
My only complaint is that the switch to Wireplumber caused a lot of audio issues on my machine until I reverted back to PulseAudio. I could also see people not wanting Wayland by default, though that has been working fine for me and the software I use. I've only been using Fedora for 2 years, but apart from those two decisions, it's been a lot more stable than my time with Ubuntu.
- gtirloni 4y ago
  > I could also see people not wanting Wayland by default It takes a single line change in /etc/gdm/custom.conf to disable it.
  - jerryzh 4y ago
    Even easier, at login window you can select, and then it will remember your choice.
johnny22 4y ago
I haven't seen a decision made in the past that would be relevant, but there is one for future fedora releases https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/269 https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/269 about installing certain apps as flatpaks rather than rpms by default. These would be fedora based flatpaks rather than from flathub. It does not actually say how it interacts with existing rpms or whether said rpms will continue to exist or be maintained in the future. I would say it's too early to get up in arms about just yet. Me personally, I agree with this approach, but a lot of other people clearly won't.

yoyohello13 4y ago

What decisions? Fedora is my daily driver and I follow Fedora dev pretty closely, so far they haven’t done anything like Ubuntu. Maybe the custom Flathub repo? But that’s a requirement for them since they can’t host proprietary software for legal reasons.

microtonal 4y ago
As far as I understand, the next Fedora release will stop masking most of Flathub by default.