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> telegram isn't e2e (at least by default) I don't see how that has an edge over the cloud sync functionality though. Cloud sync, having thousands and million
by NayamAmarshe 4y ago
> telegram isn't e2e (at least by default)
I don't see how that has an edge over the cloud sync functionality though.
Cloud sync, having thousands and millions of people in a group, group topics, 4GB file sending limit are more impressive than some closed source implementation of E2EE we can never even verify.
> all the java phones whatsapp does ( not sure if whatsapp still do though).
It doesn't anymore.
Telegram works even without an app, through their website (On phones too, yes) so I'd say it's more accessible and having open source clients and APIs means that you can create a Telegram client for literally any platform.
- bsaul 4y agoFrom a tech perspective, e2e adds a lot of constraints on reliability and message ordering which makes it hard to distribute (think « exactly once » vs « at least once » kind of problem, albeit a little different). It also adds a lot of UX problems, since every device has its own secrets and version of the messages. This is, imho what makes whatsapp uniquely hard to scale.
- NayamAmarshe 4y agoYep, spot on. E2EE has technical limitations, that's why even Telegram's own E2EE is pretty limited in functionality.