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"Tell me: is more solar power is being deployed every year?" If you weren't trying to "win" an internet conversation I would think you'd recognise the issue is

"Tell me: is more solar power is being deployed every year?" If you weren't trying to "win" an internet conversation I would think you'd recognise the issue is "sufficient" adoption, not "more" adoption.

clouddrover 4y ago
If you were interested in being practical you'd recognise that the transition takes time. Infrastructure always takes time to build out. Solar is building out faster than originally expected and that's a good thing. There's no value in the nihilistic position that change isn't happening when that is plainly contrary to the reality. Ideology makes a person dumb. You want practicality, not ideology. Science and engineering get you to practicality.
- yunwal 4y ago
  > Ideology makes a person dumb Quite an ideological position. One that entirely lacks nuance or evidence. As if serfs could have engineered their way out of fiefdoms.
  - clouddrover 4y ago
    > Quite an ideological position. Nope, just practical one. > As if serfs could have engineered their way out of fiefdoms. Hmm, that sounds like there's a practical problem that needs solving. How are you going to solve that one? By sitting around pontificating about your social media messaging? By gluing yourself to your plowshare? By joining a nihilistic, apocalyptic cult? By being all blah, blah, blah? Or are you going to do something about it?
    - yunwal 4y ago
      Certainly not gonna accomplish anything by myself. A good first step would be to reach out to other people in similar situations, and convince them to join the cause.
      - clouddrover 4y ago
        So you will do nothing. Another non-contributor, another passenger, another hanger-on. That's not practical.
        yunwal 4y ago
        Have you… actually studied the French Revolution? Which individual did it? And what kind of engineering feat did they use to accomplish it?
    - the_only_law 4y ago
      What are you doing? whining on HN? What a role model.
- staticman2 4y ago
  It especially takes time when people are opposed to transitioning to solar energy and politically coordinate to make sure such a transition doesn't happen. (The most recent Republican candadate for example said global warming is a myth). It sounds like you are willfully ignorant of how the world works, because decisions on how to power cities aren't based just on science or engineering, but also economics and legal frameworks, but you've decided consoderation of the later two are "thought crime" that you call ideology, so you choose to remain ignorant.

clouddrover 4y ago

If you were interested in being practical you'd recognise that the transition takes time. Infrastructure always takes time to build out. Solar is building out faster than originally expected and that's a good thing. There's no value in the nihilistic position that change isn't happening when that is plainly contrary to the reality. Ideology makes a person dumb. You want practicality, not ideology. Science and engineering get you to practicality.

yunwal 4y ago
> Ideology makes a person dumb Quite an ideological position. One that entirely lacks nuance or evidence. As if serfs could have engineered their way out of fiefdoms.
- clouddrover 4y ago
  > Quite an ideological position. Nope, just practical one. > As if serfs could have engineered their way out of fiefdoms. Hmm, that sounds like there's a practical problem that needs solving. How are you going to solve that one? By sitting around pontificating about your social media messaging? By gluing yourself to your plowshare? By joining a nihilistic, apocalyptic cult? By being all blah, blah, blah? Or are you going to do something about it?
  - yunwal 4y ago
    Certainly not gonna accomplish anything by myself. A good first step would be to reach out to other people in similar situations, and convince them to join the cause.
    - clouddrover 4y ago
      So you will do nothing. Another non-contributor, another passenger, another hanger-on. That's not practical.
      - yunwal 4y ago
        Have you… actually studied the French Revolution? Which individual did it? And what kind of engineering feat did they use to accomplish it?
  - the_only_law 4y ago
    What are you doing? whining on HN? What a role model.
staticman2 4y ago
It especially takes time when people are opposed to transitioning to solar energy and politically coordinate to make sure such a transition doesn't happen. (The most recent Republican candadate for example said global warming is a myth). It sounds like you are willfully ignorant of how the world works, because decisions on how to power cities aren't based just on science or engineering, but also economics and legal frameworks, but you've decided consoderation of the later two are "thought crime" that you call ideology, so you choose to remain ignorant.